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RE: That Day will come as a trap on all the world
October 1, 2014 at 4:29 am
(October 1, 2014 at 4:00 am)pocaracas Wrote: (September 30, 2014 at 7:18 pm)rasetsu Wrote:
Barack Obama is a homosexual? Yeah, right.
His name has 18 letters.... spooooky!
The rising sun is Satan? So Japan is Satan?
Oh, the triangle thing....
The pyramid on the dollar bill... it's an equilateral... if you put 6 on one side, you get 6's on all sides!! well, DUH!!!!!!
If you put 1 on one side, you get ones on all sides! 111, the number of the... casino?
If you put 2 on one side, you get twos on all sides! 222, the number of neptune... or something.
If you put 3 on one side, you get threes on all sides! 333, the number of the trinity... .hey! Now I'm onto something. The all-seeing eye of Sauron made its way to the US mint and managed to get itself into every american's pockets. And he's now doing the bidding of his master, Yahweh!
Getting all the suckers to lose themselves in shopping malls!
How can these people come up with this trash and then broadcast it to the world as if it has any bearing on reality?...
(October 1, 2014 at 12:33 am)RobZombi Wrote: Just one question. When all hell breaks loose really soon, will you attribute it to chance if you're still alive?
1. Define "hell".
2. Explain "hell breaking loose".... I'm guessing that it may come with the answer to 1.
3. How do you know such an event is happening "soon"?
4. Thus far, all similar guesses at god-induced worldwide cataclysms have been duds. Why should I (we) heed your guess? And what a guess it is! "soon"... That word was written 2000 years ago and it's still the same one...
Good (and quite funny) questions. 
1. Supposedly Hell, according to Christian belief, is mostly an eternal seperation from God. No one alive knows exactly what it is like though so it's hard to say accurately (its rather mind blowing some Christians can talk about it as if they know exactly what its like).
2. I've only ever heard that phrase used as an idiom. If it has a literal description, then it is beyond me.
3. Long story short, no one knows. Short story long, I'm getting rather tired (and embarassed) of Christians who think they can predict and know for sure when it will happen when Jesus himself said that even He doesn't know the time!
4. Personally, I think you should ignore any and all Christians who ever predicts the exact time the world will end. It'll be very obvious for everyone if and when it happens, I'm sure.
I hope I answered your questions appropriately.
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RE: That Day will come as a trap on all the world
October 1, 2014 at 4:33 am
Bring on Hell!
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:
"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."
For context, this is the previous verse:
"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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RE: That Day will come as a trap on all the world
October 1, 2014 at 4:49 am
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EDIT: I think I broke the forum... .quote tags aren't working here... 
EDIT2: Fixed! Damn wrong closing quote tag at the end...
(October 1, 2014 at 4:29 am)Hezekiah Wrote: Quote:1. Define "hell".
2. Explain "hell breaking loose".... I'm guessing that it may come with the answer to 1.
3. How do you know such an event is happening "soon"?
4. Thus far, all similar guesses at god-induced worldwide cataclysms have been duds. Why should I (we) heed your guess? And what a guess it is! "soon"... That word was written 2000 years ago and it's still the same one...
Good (and quite funny) questions. Thanks for answering them.
I always aim for a bit of humor (humour) on my posts.... it often goes unnoticed, though...
(October 1, 2014 at 4:29 am)Hezekiah Wrote: 1. Supposedly Hell, according to Christian belief, is mostly an eternal seperation from God. No one alive knows exactly what it is like though so it's hard to say accurately (its rather mind blowing some Christians can talk about it as if they know exactly what its like). So, it's one of those things that require belief.
What happens if a person doesn't share the christian belief? No hell? Separation from god? why would a non-believer care about that?
(October 1, 2014 at 4:29 am)Hezekiah Wrote: 2. I've only ever heard that phrase used as an idiom. If it has a literal description, then it is beyond me. Let's wait for someone who has heard it, then! 
(October 1, 2014 at 4:29 am)Hezekiah Wrote: 3. Long story short, no one knows. Short story long, I'm getting rather tired (and embarassed) of Christians who think they can predict and know for sure when it will happen when Jesus himself said that even He doesn't know the time! Indeed...
Not even Gandalf knew he'd become white if he battled the Balrog.
(October 1, 2014 at 4:29 am)Hezekiah Wrote: 4. Personally, I think you should ignore any and all Christians who ever predicts the exact time the world will end. It'll be very obvious for everyone if and when it happens, I'm sure. (my bolding)
That's a mighty big 'if'!
(October 1, 2014 at 4:29 am)Hezekiah Wrote: I hope I answered your questions appropriately. You did... but your level of delusion isn't quite as high as those I was hoping would answer...
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RE: That Day will come as a trap on all the world
October 1, 2014 at 4:53 am
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Thanks! Not all of us are foaming at the mouth
(October 1, 2014 at 4:49 am)pocaracas Wrote: (October 1, 2014 at 4:29 am)Hezekiah Wrote: 1. Supposedly Hell, according to Christian belief, is mostly an eternal seperation from God. No one alive knows exactly what it is like though so it's hard to say accurately (its rather mind blowing some Christians can talk about it as if they know exactly what its like). So, it's one of those things that require belief.
What happens if a person doesn't share the christian belief? No hell? Separation from god? why would a non-believer care about that?
Yes, it basically requires certain belief. Moreover it the Christian belief that requires that variable. Kind of like a package deal of sorts
If a Christian doesn't share his/or beliefs, they'll be fine. No hell or seperation. I mean, most will quote Jesus when he says go and make disciples of all nations, but I personally believe that in our modern era, that applies best with new converts. Non-believers usually don't care, but from a Christian point of view they "should" care because they will go to hell. And most Christians make the mistake of forcing non-believers TO care.
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RE: That Day will come as a trap on all the world
October 1, 2014 at 5:59 am
I think the level of fundamentalist-type zeal is in proportion to the demands of the martyr chip and can be arranged on a scale accordingly. Zombo and his pals clearly have a desperate need to feel persecuted, most likely because they feel it strengthens their faith. Meaning that their faith is parasitically leeching not only off their minds, but ours too. It's truly sad when one's belief system is so weak and fragile, it can only be validated by the criticisms of others. It's like a person whose only human contact depends on a violent relationship, because that's the only way they can feel alive.
That it's also a way for them to express superiority over the poor heathen is merely a bonus. I can see why it could be so compelling.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: That Day will come as a trap on all the world
October 1, 2014 at 6:14 am
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(October 1, 2014 at 12:33 am)RobZombi Wrote: No. Just one question. When all hell breaks loose really soon, will you attribute it to chance if you're still alive? I suppose it's appropriate for someone to make the "you'll be sorry very soon" threat in a thread where yet another end-of-times deadline came and went without anything actually happening.
People have been warning 'heathens' about how the end of the world is jusssst around the corner for centuries because all of the 'signs' pointed to the prophetic events foretold by some ancient shithead. Time and again, the anticipated date comes and goes and the world remains. But does that stop you guys from wishing destruction and torment on everyone? Of course not! You're pretty sure that you've got the winning lottery ticket this time!
(October 1, 2014 at 4:29 am)Hezekiah Wrote: 1. Supposedly Hell, according to Christian belief, is mostly an eternal seperation from God. No one alive knows exactly what it is like though so it's hard to say accurately (its rather mind blowing some Christians can talk about it as if they know exactly what its like). In my experience, most Christians are taught to be absolutely sure of what they believe. They call it "the truth" after all, and you can't condemn others unless you're certain that you have your theology straight. Yet the Bible is open to interpretation on nearly every single important point of worship, which explains why there are so many interpretations, and why some of them become more/less common than others as time passes and societies learn more and make progress. Christianity's primary strength may come from that vagueness, as it has allowed it to change with the times and become more palatable to people at any given time and location.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: That Day will come as a trap on all the world
October 1, 2014 at 6:24 am
It always sounds to me more like the least popular kid in school writing down the names of everyone who doesn't like him and saying he'll get the last laugh.
"Your name will also go on the list. What is it?"
"Don't tell him, Pike! "
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: That Day will come as a trap on all the world
October 1, 2014 at 6:45 am
(October 1, 2014 at 6:14 am)Tonus Wrote: (October 1, 2014 at 12:33 am)RobZombi Wrote: No. Just one question. When all hell breaks loose really soon, will you attribute it to chance if you're still alive? I suppose it's appropriate for someone to make the "you'll be sorry very soon" threat in a thread where yet another end-of-times deadline came and went without anything actually happening.
People have been warning 'heathens' about how the end of the world is jusssst around the corner for centuries because all of the 'signs' pointed to the prophetic events foretold by some ancient shithead. Time and again, the anticipated date comes and goes and the world remains. But does that stop you guys from wishing destruction and torment on everyone? Of course not! You're pretty sure that you've got the winning lottery ticket this time!
(October 1, 2014 at 4:29 am)Hezekiah Wrote: 1. Supposedly Hell, according to Christian belief, is mostly an eternal seperation from God. No one alive knows exactly what it is like though so it's hard to say accurately (its rather mind blowing some Christians can talk about it as if they know exactly what its like). In my experience, most Christians are taught to be absolutely sure of what they believe. They call it "the truth" after all, and you can't condemn others unless you're certain that you have your theology straight. Yet the Bible is open to interpretation on nearly every single important point of worship, which explains why there are so many interpretations, and why some of them become more/less common than others as time passes and societies learn more and make progress. Christianity's primary strength may come from that vagueness, as it has allowed it to change with the times and become more palatable to people at any given time and location.
I in no way was trying to condemn anyone. I simply stated that no one alive today knows exactly what he'll is like. If you did you'd be dead and in hell. And at that point I don't believe your in a position to send someone a postcard describing your experience.
Also, I've been a practicing Christian since I was 8 (granted I fallen in and out of the faith a few times since then) regardless, I feel confident enough to say I'm well versed in Christian Theology.
I agree, certain details in the Bible are interpreted differently. It's the reason why there are so many denominations (I'm non-denominational for the record). But what holds the denominations together is that they should all be preaching the same Gospel of Jesus Christ.
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RE: That Day will come as a trap on all the world
October 1, 2014 at 6:55 am
Shame there isn't one, really.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: That Day will come as a trap on all the world
October 1, 2014 at 7:35 am
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(October 1, 2014 at 6:45 am)Hezekiah Wrote: I in no way was trying to condemn anyone. I simply stated that no one alive today knows exactly what he'll is like. .. I feel confident enough to say I'm well versed in Christian Theology.
I agree, certain details in the Bible are interpreted differently. It's the reason why there are so many denominations (I'm non-denominational for the record). But what holds the denominations together is that they should all be preaching the same Gospel of Jesus Christ.
When one, such as the professor, creates meanings that are not there and also claims divine affirmation, then they are putting man's words into god's mouth, a form of blasphemy. Why do other christians not attack these as false prophets?
What does the bible direct against people that add to the word of god to further their own ends?
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