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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 7, 2014 at 3:57 pm
(October 7, 2014 at 3:54 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: (October 7, 2014 at 3:49 pm)Chas Wrote: Is abortion at 8months and 30 days OK?
I don't really see a distinction between an abortion at 8 months and 30 days, and a C section. I think an abortion is the termination of a pregnancy not a foetus, and in this case the 'abortion' would result with the foetus surviving. So yes, I think it's fine.
OK, then we have been talking past each other I'd say.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 7, 2014 at 3:58 pm
Put it this way I believe that if you don't want to get pregnant don't have sex, simple.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 7, 2014 at 3:58 pm
(October 7, 2014 at 3:45 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: It is not the fact that you are murdering an innocent life but the fact that you are preventing someone from living that annoys me. Clearly, this is an issue of pressing importance for you.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 7, 2014 at 3:59 pm
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 7, 2014 at 4:01 pm
(October 7, 2014 at 3:58 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: Put it this way I believe that if you don't want to get pregnant don't have sex, simple.
And if you don't want to get in a car crash, don't drive.
If you don't want to get mugged on your way to work, don't go to work
If you don't want to get struck by lighting, don't go outside.
Simple.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 7, 2014 at 4:01 pm
Yes it is, even if I think about it from a non christain point view, I still dislike it.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 7, 2014 at 4:02 pm
(October 7, 2014 at 3:58 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: Put it this way I believe that if you don't want to get pregnant don't have sex, simple.
Are you serious? Is that like 'if you don't want to get fat, don't eat'?
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 7, 2014 at 4:02 pm
(October 7, 2014 at 4:01 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: (October 7, 2014 at 3:58 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: Put it this way I believe that if you don't want to get pregnant don't have sex, simple.
And if you don't want to get in a car crash, don't drive.
If you don't want to get mugged on your way to work, don't go to work
If you don't want to get struck by lighting, don't go outside.
Simple.
You generally have control over whether you have sex, the examples you gave you don't have control over them.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 7, 2014 at 4:02 pm
(October 7, 2014 at 4:01 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: Yes it is, even if I think about it from a non christain point view, I still dislike it.
No body likes abortion. Do you honestly think that us pro-choicers like abortion and want people to have abortions? No. We want people do be free to have the choice to have an abortion.
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RE: Abortion not allowed
October 7, 2014 at 4:02 pm
(October 7, 2014 at 3:58 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: Put it this way I believe that if you don't want to get pregnant don't have sex, simple.
Doesn't work for victims of rape or incest.
Also, it takes two to make a pregnancy (generally).
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