(October 10, 2014 at 6:04 pm)Chas Wrote: Please define what a human being is and provide a reasonable argument.If you will provide your definition of "being" then I will be happy to do my best to present my position. If you and I are starting from different points there is little likelihood that we'll ever understand one another.
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Abortion not allowed
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  (October 10, 2014 at 6:06 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: They won't ever actually define what a human being is because we would be able to pin them down on it and point out what is wrong with it. I have said multiple times what I believe a human is, if you don't accept it as an asnwer well then that is just your problem.  RE: Abortion not allowed
October 10, 2014 at 6:11 pm
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(October 10, 2014 at 6:05 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: Has anyone heard of the hippocratic oath literally it is an oath tzking by doctors saying they will value and take care of humzn life from the point of conception. No, it doesn't say that. In fact, there is no universallly used Hippocratic Oath. What's more, "While there is currently no legal obligation for medical students to swear an oath upon graduating, 98% of American medical students swear some form of oath, while only 50% of British medical students do." Many use the Declaration of Geneva: At the time of being admitted as a member of the medical profession:
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Compulsive procrastinator  Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? (October 10, 2014 at 6:09 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I have said multiple times what I believe a human is, if you don't accept it as an asnwer well then that is just your problem. Then you will have no problem repeating your definition.
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Okay, I believe that anything in any stage of human development from conception to death is human.
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? (October 10, 2014 at 6:09 pm)ShaMan Wrote: If you will provide your definition of "being" then I will be happy to do my best to present my position. If you and I are starting from different points there is little likelihood that we'll ever understand one another. He asked first. Stop being obnoxious.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
I don't think biologists agree
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Compulsive procrastinator Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? (October 10, 2014 at 6:12 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: Okay, I believe that anything in any stage of human development from conception to death is human. So my fingernail is a human being? Is my fingernail a person?
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech |
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