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Eternal punishment is pointless.
RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
(November 18, 2014 at 2:59 am)Godschild Wrote: Your right God will judge who goes to hell that's His place. However the Bible does state facts that lead people to know what is required to go to heaven and we certainly can make assumptions or even out right know some of those who will be going to hell.

I don't think so, Godschild.

Not that it matters anyway. As hell is just an tool to get people to submit to Christian dogma.
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So God was in charge, but his son was dead for a couple of days.

Also, before, he was screaming "Father, why have you forsaken me".

But they are one.

Spectacularly stupid.

And, might i add...

If a was eternal, I could sacrifice everything from time to time just to show off, not giving a single fuck.

It`s not sacrifice if you lose absolutely nothing, but go tell that to the schizophrenics who hear voices and see dubious lights.
If it`s true that our species is alone in the universe then I`d have to say the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
(November 18, 2014 at 2:59 am)Godschild Wrote: All I'm asked to do is witness, I have, now it's up to you.

... to cross-examine the witness, which is what we're doing. What you're proposing is basically "yes, I am a witness to the murder; you need to be one, too." Sorry, but that's not how these things work.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
(November 18, 2014 at 1:19 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: So, your god died, and was resurrected.

Who was in charge during those three days?

God the Father.

(November 18, 2014 at 1:04 am)Irrational Wrote:
(November 17, 2014 at 4:02 pm)Godschild Wrote: The truth is the truth and pride has nothing to do with it being posted.

Even if there is a hell and the Christian God exists, it's not up to you to judge who will go to hell.

But we have been tasked to point out the signage and direction of Hell that is indeed in most people's lives.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
(November 18, 2014 at 10:00 am)Drich Wrote:
(November 18, 2014 at 1:04 am)Irrational Wrote: Even if there is a hell and the Christian God exists, it's not up to you to judge who will go to hell.

But we have been tasked to point out the signage and direction of Hell that is indeed in most people's lives.

Mission accomplished. Bye bye now.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
(November 18, 2014 at 2:48 am)Godschild Wrote: The father was still on the throne, you should really read the Bible, it would save us a lot of time on this simple stuff.

GC

So how can a father be his own son? How does that work? For that matter, how is your one god three people?

You see, the Bible only says that that's what they are -- it doesn't say how it happened. I'm asking you for your views on this unexplained mess of personalities and physical expressions and so on. The body nailed to the cross, wasn't that guy your god? How was he on the cross and on the "throne" at the same time?

(Protip: I know the theology. I'm asking you how you comprehend it in your own head).

eta: Damn it, PsychoSlice got there with the toilet joke first. This is what I get for going to bed!

(November 18, 2014 at 10:00 am)Drich Wrote:
(November 18, 2014 at 1:19 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: So, your god died, and was resurrected.

Who was in charge during those three days?

God the Father.

Ah -- so unlike God'sChild here, you believe that the guy on the throne was not his son on the cross? That makes a little more sense, truth be told.

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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
(November 18, 2014 at 2:51 am)psychoslice Wrote:
(November 18, 2014 at 2:48 am)Godschild Wrote: The father was still on the throne, you should really read the Bible, it would save us a lot of time on this simple stuff.

GC

What does it mean to you on the throne, is it the toilet or a big chair, or what ?.

In absolute and total control.

GC

(November 18, 2014 at 5:56 am)Irrational Wrote:
(November 18, 2014 at 2:59 am)Godschild Wrote: Your right God will judge who goes to hell that's His place. However the Bible does state facts that lead people to know what is required to go to heaven and we certainly can make assumptions or even out right know some of those who will be going to hell.

I don't think so, Godschild.

Not that it matters anyway. As hell is just an tool to get people to submit to Christian dogma.

In the end it only matters what God thinks.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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One wonders why some people would accuse him of only caring about himself, despite the claims that he loves us.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
(November 18, 2014 at 11:33 am)Parkers Tan Wrote:
(November 18, 2014 at 2:48 am)Godschild Wrote: The father was still on the throne, you should really read the Bible, it would save us a lot of time on this simple stuff.

GC

So how can a father be his own son? How does that work? For that matter, how is your one god three people?

You see, the Bible only says that that's what they are -- it doesn't say how it happened. I'm asking you for your views on this unexplained mess of personalities and physical expressions and so on. The body nailed to the cross, wasn't that guy your god? How was he on the cross and on the "throne" at the same time?

(Protip: I know the theology. I'm asking you how you comprehend it in your own head).

eta: Damn it, PsychoSlice got there with the toilet joke first. This is what I get for going to bed!

You have no idea what the theology is if you did why ask. God reveals himself in three persons. He is able to be all three at the same time, ie. the baptism of Jesus. If you are so interested in how God accomplishes this you should ask Him.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
(November 18, 2014 at 11:33 am)Parkers Tan Wrote:
(November 18, 2014 at 2:48 am)Godschild Wrote: The father was still on the throne, you should really read the Bible, it would save us a lot of time on this simple stuff.

GC

So how can a father be his own son? How does that work? For that matter, how is your one god three people?

You see, the Bible only says that that's what they are -- it doesn't say how it happened. I'm asking you for your views on this unexplained mess of personalities and physical expressions and so on. The body nailed to the cross, wasn't that guy your god? How was he on the cross and on the "throne" at the same time?

(Protip: I know the theology. I'm asking you how you comprehend it in your own head).

eta: Damn it, PsychoSlice got there with the toilet joke first. This is what I get for going to bed!

(November 18, 2014 at 10:00 am)Drich Wrote: God the Father.

Ah -- so unlike God'sChild here, you believe that the guy on the throne was not his son on the cross? That makes a little more sense, truth be told.

God is a title and not a name, as in God the Father God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. God the Son died on the Cross and God the Father remained in Heaven.
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