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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 18, 2014 at 3:16 pm
(November 18, 2014 at 1:24 pm)Godschild Wrote: You have no idea what the theology is if you did why ask. God reveals himself in three persons. He is able to be all three at the same time, ie. the baptism of Jesus. If you are so interested in how God accomplishes this you should ask Him.
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If we could simply ask him, we wouldn't be atheists, or having these kinds of debates.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 18, 2014 at 3:38 pm
(November 18, 2014 at 1:32 pm)Drich Wrote: (November 18, 2014 at 11:33 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: So how can a father be his own son? How does that work? For that matter, how is your one god three people?
You see, the Bible only says that that's what they are -- it doesn't say how it happened. I'm asking you for your views on this unexplained mess of personalities and physical expressions and so on. The body nailed to the cross, wasn't that guy your god? How was he on the cross and on the "throne" at the same time?
(Protip: I know the theology. I'm asking you how you comprehend it in your own head).
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Ah -- so unlike God'sChild here, you believe that the guy on the throne was not his son on the cross? That makes a little more sense, truth be told.
God is a title and not a name, as in God the Father God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. God the Son died on the Cross and God the Father remained in Heaven.
So, you're pagan, then?
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 18, 2014 at 3:41 pm
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(November 18, 2014 at 3:16 pm)Chad32 Wrote: If we could simply ask him, we wouldn't be atheists, or having these kinds of debates.
Maybe if we ask GC nicely he's willing to hand out gods details. I'm pretty sure, he's got only a landline and no email or mobile.
Alternatively, we could advise to take his Seroquel as prescribed.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 18, 2014 at 3:43 pm
(November 18, 2014 at 3:41 pm)abaris Wrote: (November 18, 2014 at 3:16 pm)Chad32 Wrote: If we could simply ask him, we wouldn't be atheists, or having these kinds of debates.
Maybe if we ask GC nicely he's willing to hand out gods details. I'm pretty sure, he's got only a landline and no email or mobile.
Isn't that what the Pope's for?
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November 18, 2014 at 3:48 pm
(November 18, 2014 at 3:43 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Isn't that what the Pope's for?
Not in GCs world. He's constantly claiming to chill with the Almighty. I wonder what they're smoking.
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November 18, 2014 at 4:10 pm
(November 18, 2014 at 3:41 pm)abaris Wrote: (November 18, 2014 at 3:16 pm)Chad32 Wrote: If we could simply ask him, we wouldn't be atheists, or having these kinds of debates.
Maybe if we ask GC nicely he's willing to hand out gods details. I'm pretty sure, he's got only a landline and no email or mobile.
Alternatively, we could advise to take his Seroquel as prescribed.
Maybe we really are supposed to do as the catholics, and talk to Yahweh through the saints. Pray to Mary, and they'll send the message on to Yahweh or Jesus. I mean, if a man won't listen to his momma, he's got no common sense.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 18, 2014 at 4:16 pm
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(November 18, 2014 at 12:37 am)Drich Wrote: at the time of my experience I was only aware of the catholic version of Hell. My experience cause me to look up what the bible actually said. The deeper I researched it the more I understood the depth and meaning of what was written on page. My experienced confirmed what the bible said about hell before I knew what the bible had to say. - as I said, massive fucking bullshit. There's at least one other way to gain knowledge of hell that you've put forward. I don't want to hear any more garbage about the bible being the only way (or any bitching about people using another source)- unless you stop pretending that you had an experience, that you had another source....understand?
(I thought about responding to the rest of your post, but it seems to boil down to you chiding catholics for favoring N. European paganism over the Mediterranean paganism you prefer. So, I say meh, some like vanilla, some like chocolate.)
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 18, 2014 at 4:32 pm
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(November 18, 2014 at 1:24 pm)Godschild Wrote: You have no idea what the theology is if you did why ask.[?]
Because I want to know how you conceive it in your mind, as I've said already at least twice in plain English.
(November 18, 2014 at 1:24 pm)Godschild Wrote: God reveals himself in three persons. He is able to be all three at the same time, ie. the baptism of Jesus. If you are so interested in how God accomplishes this you should ask Him.
Unfortunately, he's absent.
I gather then that you have no fucking clue how you come to believe what you claim to believe? How old are you, four or five? Aren't you too old for spoonfeeding? Aren't you worried that you might anger your god in your steadfast refusal to use the brain you allege he gave you?
How are you not being the selfsame robot you say that your god doesn't want?
Look, I know you're not used to this thinking stuff, but I'm going to ask you again: how do you think that one entity can be split into three incorporations, remain unitary, and yet still feel the need to have conversations with himself? How do you come to the belief that Jesus was talking to himself on the cross when he clearly wasn't?
I won't let go of this until you answer me. "I don't know, ask god" is not an answer, it's a chickenshit copout from a drone who hasn't even bothered to examine his own beliefs -- and I reject it.
(November 18, 2014 at 1:32 pm)Drich Wrote: God is a title and not a name, as in God the Father God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. God the Son died on the Cross and God the Father remained in Heaven.
Oh, so there are three entities which have earned the title "god"? Thanks.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 18, 2014 at 4:39 pm
(November 18, 2014 at 10:00 am)Drich Wrote: (November 18, 2014 at 1:19 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: So, your god died, and was resurrected.
Who was in charge during those three days?
God the Father.
(November 18, 2014 at 1:04 am)Irrational Wrote: Even if there is a hell and the Christian God exists, it's not up to you to judge who will go to hell.
But we have been tasked to point out the signage and direction of Hell that is indeed in most people's lives.
But you are not, biblically speaking, supposed to judge anyone to hell. Warn people about hell, yes, but not judge that they will go to hell. Remember the story of Jonah? A whole nation repented.
Anyway, to be honest, there's really no point for anyone to preach here about hell other than to satisfy one's ego. You guys know that we're all pretty much aware of what you guys believe regarding hell and all that. I don't understand why you don't just go elsewhere to preach.
If you want a debate, that's another story, but preaching? I don't see the point.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
November 18, 2014 at 4:43 pm
(November 18, 2014 at 3:48 pm)abaris Wrote: (November 18, 2014 at 3:43 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Isn't that what the Pope's for?
Not in GCs world. He's constantly claiming to chill with the Almighty. I wonder what they're smoking.
well there is this thing called DMT and people talk about their experiences after they use it.
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