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Eternal punishment is pointless.
RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
(November 18, 2014 at 1:24 pm)Godschild Wrote: You have no idea what the theology is if you did why ask. God reveals himself in three persons. He is able to be all three at the same time, ie. the baptism of Jesus. If you are so interested in how God accomplishes this you should ask Him.

Jesus was quite clearly addressing someone he thought not to be himself from the cross. Are you diagnosing your your god with a split personality disorder?
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(November 18, 2014 at 1:24 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(November 18, 2014 at 11:33 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: So how can a father be his own son? How does that work? For that matter, how is your one god three people?

You see, the Bible only says that that's what they are -- it doesn't say how it happened. I'm asking you for your views on this unexplained mess of personalities and physical expressions and so on. The body nailed to the cross, wasn't that guy your god? How was he on the cross and on the "throne" at the same time?

(Protip: I know the theology. I'm asking you how you comprehend it in your own head).

eta: Damn it, PsychoSlice got there with the toilet joke first. This is what I get for going to bed!

You have no idea what the theology is if you did why ask. God reveals himself in three persons. He is able to be all three at the same time, ie. the baptism of Jesus. If you are so interested in how God accomplishes this you should ask Him.

GC

seems pointless he forsaken himself as a human gotten himself killed. yet he did this to quell his anger but guess what it was all for nothing. yes god is 3 different separate beings for one time or another. He is god, the holy spirit (ghost), jesus, pretty a trinity. if god was real he needs to be on medication or something for anger and multiple personality disorder.
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(November 18, 2014 at 1:35 pm)Cato Wrote: Jesus was quite clearly addressing someone he thought not to be himself from the cross. Are you diagnosing your your god with a split personality disorder?

He also talked to someone to take this cup from him before embarking on his suicide mission.

GC doesn't get it, why we don't find one god persona sacrificing himself to a second god persona all that impressive. Even more so, since you obviously can't kill god. So, even the resurrection was more of a circus trick than anything else.
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(November 18, 2014 at 12:37 am)Drich Wrote: You asked a question, based on a very loose fill understanding of a religion you a faded intrest in. The fact that you believe that Catholics and non Catholics source our understanding of Hell from the same place prooves this.

My family was half Episcopal, half Catholic. I went to plenty of both kinds of services. They read the same bibles.

Quote:There is much in the way of secular documentation to the source material in which catholism fabricated it version of Hell. (It helps pacify the masses to know that hell can't be real if the biggest religion stole it from a bunch of others.)

There is much in the same way to suggest that fundamental parts of the Bible itself are sourced from older myths.

Quote:the problem you and the rest have is one easily resolved by a simple question. Does any of what the Catholic Church say about Hell appear in the bible? If not one can simply cut out and discard all of the old myth stuff, which includes most of your OP.

What is actually written in the bible is not as important as how the writing is interpreted. The Catholics have no problem interpreting the Bible in the way they do, and they would say that you're the one who isn't doing it correctly. I guarantee that I won't interpret the way either of you do.

Quote:Again you asked a question based on God's fairness concerning Hell. I answered it by showing you what you believe to be Hell is infact not the Hell according to the only document God Him put before us to answer all things concerning Him... Including His works, thoughs and warnings of Hell.. But, it seems you need God to be unjust in order to justify how and what you think of Him. Otherwise it would seem to me an open mind would at least ask a few more questions concerning the idea that God is not the monster you need Him to be in your mind concerning this.

I can promise you that the reason I view your god as a monster is because I have personal standards of goodness, and your god is just one of many that fails the test. Since that god is supposed to not have any limits to his knowledge or capabilities, there can be no excuses for his behavior.

I know that you hold your god above any reproach automatically. No matter what he does, you think he's doing the right thing. You might be the one who needs to ask more questions than you have.

Quote:What makes you believe my position is based only what I have experienced?

I have no compelling reason to assume anything else.
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(November 18, 2014 at 1:14 pm)Godschild Wrote: In absolute and total control.

Always helpful in order to avoid skidmarks.

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Those stains are hell to shift. So I'm told.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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(November 18, 2014 at 1:49 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: I can promise you that the reason I view your god as a monster is because I have personal standards of goodness, and your god is just one of many that fails the test. Since that god is supposed to not have any limits to his knowledge or capabilities, there can be no excuses for his behavior.

I know that you hold your god above any reproach automatically. No matter what he does, you think he's doing the right thing. You might be the one who needs to ask more questions than you have.

Hear, hear!

(November 18, 2014 at 1:57 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Those stains are hell to shift. So I'm told.

Don't get old, Stimmy m'friend. Just don't do it.

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Avoiding doing that as we speak.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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if i had to be religious fuck it i would pray to every other god in existence even raijin god of thunder.
before i even think 1 logical moment before i pray to a mass murdering god of the bible.
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RE: Eternal punishment is pointless.
(November 18, 2014 at 1:55 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:
(November 18, 2014 at 1:14 pm)Godschild Wrote: In absolute and total control.

Always helpful in order to avoid skidmarks.

You said it, I only thought it.
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