What will it take to convert you?

[abaris]

In DnD you have a Paladin, who must be Lawful Good to even BE a Paladin, and it's pretty much based on the Medieval knights. No wonder christians hated DnD. We cherry picked the best parts of their famous crusading warriors, and left out the dirty truth.

Never played a Paladin for the Lawfull/Good restriction. I always played a chaotic/neutral Cleric.

[subsecret]

At this point it seems a common opinion is even if god does exist.
Fuck 'em?

I'd say that's a fair opinion. Still no theist rebuttals from what I can tell?

let me ask you this and many others. From the closet star, I envision the earth to look like a dot on a piece of paper and out of that dot is a spec of dust which represents you. You being that spec of dust if we are to believe the concept of a God is true for a moments time.

Making demands such as "god if i'm to believe you are real, i want to have all your powers for a day" or "i want 100 million dollars" or i want "1 million virgins" is comical at best.


Even if you don't accept the reality of a God and when i use the word "God" in this context, i say it likely because i'm not talking about a skydaddy, magic man, zeus, flying spegtthetic monster sitting in the clouds concept of God that we have.

Picture this, if you went to a president/head of state right now, or infront of a judge and you wanted to make a request, even contentiously. You won't dare speak in the tone which are relayed in this thread.

But alas, i know this is the internet and people are usually bad boys, intelligent gaints and brave warriors when it comes to the internet.

And that goes to any subject matter which are discussed on the internet.
So i take these post requests with a grain of salt.

But i will say something. If, pardon me, when God reveals himself to you in the most significant but personal way. If you reject him, its not because lack of evidence but because we are content to live without him.

[Brian37]

To any religion? Short of god himself descending from heaven in front of you (even hardcore believers aren't holding their breath).

For myself I'd say god has his/her work cut out. It would probably require altering my ability to exercise free will. Most religions have too many hypocritical practices and texts for me to buy into the bs.

There is a further question if you're a theist. We'll give your intelligence the benifet of the doubt and ask why you still believe with all the evidence against the bible/torah/whatever?

With all the "proof" and "case" threads going on that are either trolls or actually trying convert a few of us, I'm curious.

Barring a mental illness, or brain disease I cannot see myself in my current lucid state ever going back to believing.

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At this point it seems a common opinion is even if god does exist.
Fuck 'em?

I'd say that's a fair opinion. Still no theist rebuttals from what I can tell?

let me ask you this and many others. From the closet star, I envision the earth to look like a dot on a piece of paper and out of that dot is a spec of dust which represents you. You being that spec of dust if we are to believe the concept of a God is true for a moments time.

Making demands such as "god if i'm to believe you are real, i want to have all your powers for a day" or "i want 100 million dollars" or i want "1 million virgins" is comical at best.


Even if you don't accept the reality of a God and when i use the word "God" in this context, i say it likely because i'm not talking about a skydaddy, magic man, zeus, flying spegtthetic monster sitting in the clouds concept of God that we have.

Picture this, if you went to a president/head of state right now, or infront of a judge and you wanted to make a request, even contentiously. You won't dare speak in the tone which are relayed in this thread.

But alas, i know this is the internet and people are usually bad boys, intelligent gaints and brave warriors when it comes to the internet.

And that goes to any subject matter which are discussed on the internet.
So i take these post requests with a grain of salt.

But i will say something. If, pardon me, when God reveals himself to you in the most significant but personal way. If you reject him, its not because lack of evidence but because we are content to live without him.

You are content without believing in Allah. You are content without believing in Vishnu. So yea, I am content without believing in your fictional god too. I simply reject one more sky hero claim than you do.

[fr0d0]

You were high last time Brian!?

[subsecret]

You are content without believing in Allah. You are content without believing in Vishnu. So yea, I am content without believing in your fictional god too. I simply reject one more sky hero claim than you do.

what's up with the 'sky ___' God doesn't reside in the sky, space, etc.
Interesting concept of God there though.

Anyway i certainly don't debate Muslims by reading up and quoting from websites of badly taken out of context and misinterpreted text
So I could say "hahhaha here look at this " as some (or may i say all) atheist do.
I wonder if anyone have tried going through their English classes by knowingly butchering their given literature the same way.
Pretty sure the letter "F" will be waiting for them.

[Spooky]

At this point it seems a common opinion is even if god does exist.
Fuck 'em?

I'd say that's a fair opinion. Still no theist rebuttals from what I can tell?

let me ask you this and many others. From the closet star, I envision the earth to look like a dot on a piece of paper and out of that dot is a spec of dust which represents you. You being that spec of dust if we are to believe the concept of a God is true for a moments time.

Making demands such as "god if i'm to believe you are real, i want to have all your powers for a day" or "i want 100 million dollars" or i want "1 million virgins" is comical at best.


Even if you don't accept the reality of a God and when i use the word "God" in this context, i say it likely because i'm not talking about a skydaddy, magic man, zeus, flying spegtthetic monster sitting in the clouds concept of God that we have.

Picture this, if you went to a president/head of state right now, or infront of a judge and you wanted to make a request, even contentiously. You won't dare speak in the tone which are relayed in this thread.

But alas, i know this is the internet and people are usually bad boys, intelligent gaints and brave warriors when it comes to the internet.

And that goes to any subject matter which are discussed on the internet.
So i take these post requests with a grain of salt.

But i will say something. If, pardon me, when God reveals himself to you in the most significant but personal way. If you reject him, its not because lack of evidence but because we are content to live without him.

1. The magnitude of the universe and how it relates to my own insignificance is not lost on me.
2. To hell with virgins, I want women who know what they are doing.
3. I have personally told brass and a judge to stick it up their ass. Your argument is invalid.
4. I know this is the internet. I also know I enlisted at 17, deployed twice, and can prove it. Stick it up your ass.
5. Your god doesn't exist. Fuck him.

[The Grand Nudger]

So I could say "hahhaha here look at this " as some (or may i say all) atheist do.

You don't? It's fucking hilarious man you should try it.

[tantric]

Buddhist atheism is a bit different - the existence of god(s) is irrelevant. I wouldn't become Christian is Jehovah himself appeared and demanded worship. If such beings do exist, they are attention addicted ego-maniacs, whose attachment to worship binds them in suffering. I don't worship god(s) because it is neither necessary nor helpful, not because they aren't real (though they aren't, as far as I can tell).

[subsecret]

1. The magnitude of the universe and how it relates to my own insignificance is not lost on me.
2. To hell with virgins, I want women who know what they are doing.
3. I have personally told brass and a judge to stick it up their ass. Your argument is invalid.
4. I know this is the internet. I also know I enlisted at 17, deployed twice, and can prove it. Stick it up your ass.
5. Your god doesn't exist. Fuck him.

Fair enough. Fair enough.

But isn't it weird the amount of animosity toward this fabricated pure intelligent energy. You would think you were personally hurt by him.

Talk to me bro, especially in a thread where the context is 'what will it take to convert you'. I'm confused.

Anyway i'm not trying to convert you through persuasive words of men's wisdom. But If you really want to genuinely talk about personal proof and evidence to you, we can talk, peacefully.

[abaris]

But isn't it weird the amount of animosity toward this fabricated pure intelligent energy. You would think you were personally hurt by him.

It's rather the fanclub and it's actions pissing us off.

Anyway i'm not trying to convert you through persuasive words of men's wisdom. But If you really want to genuinely talk about personal proof and evidence to you, we can talk, peacefully.

Wisdom and believing in something that can't be proven are kind of mutual excluxive. And personal proof and evidence don't exist, since they are, well, personal. It's just like the guy claiming his camera go broken, just when this giant UFO was hovering over him.