Oregon faith-healing parents fight to get baby back, face criminal charges

[binny]

There is no justice if these parents get this child back.

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-city/in...ost_2.html

[Minimalist]

As a matter of fact there rarely is justice anywhere.

[Ace Otana]

Wyland's first wife, Monique, died of breast cancer in 2006. She had not sought or received medical treatment for the condition, said Dr. Christopher Young, a deputy state medical examiner who signed the death certificate.

Trusting in god gets you no where. Because relying on your imaginary friend is utterly pointless if he/it/thing does not exist.

One pair of working hands can do far more than all 7 billion clapsed hands in prayer.
Faith in a being that probably doesn't exist is extremely irrational.

[Nitsuj]

Think of all the religous debate in the courtroom. It may well depend on how religous the jury is.

[Tiberius]

I doubt it will depend on the religiosity of the jury; most of the people in the courtroom probably believe in Christianity. It will all depend on the jury's ability to separate belief from the laws of the land, which have been put in place to prevent this sort of thing happening.

[Rob]

So shes getting the help she needs now?

I hate how complicated things become when kids are involved.

[DiRNiS]

There are hundreds of reasons why having outdated and irrational religious beliefs does more harm than good. This is only one of them.

These lunatic assholes are free to believe in whatever stupid fairy tale they want. But when their lunacy starts hurting a child, that's where the line needs to be drawn. No child should be let to suffer for the ignorance and stupidity of the parents.

The sooner the world moves away from religion the better we will be. The nations that progress are mostly the most secular ones. Free of religious bullshit in government. When will some people start realising this?

[superstarr]

These religious people are in dire need of medical help. Therapy perhaps.

[Thor]

What dumbasses! They've allowed an easily treatable condition to get out of control and threaten their child's eyesight. Good job, morons! It's obvious that the prayers to your imaginary friend have done no good. How about letting medical professoinals take care of your kid? If I was this kid and I suffered vision impairment because of this, when I grew up I would ask my parents, "How could you have been SO FUCKING STUPID?!?!?"

Religion - causing irreparable harm since 10,000 BCE!

[tavarish]

I always find these stories oddly funny yet appalling.

It's like a family I saw on the news a few weeks ago. The daughter was in a car accident and was in critical condition and hospitalized for weeks. The family prayed and miraculously, their prayers were answered. She made a recovery! They thanked God and all was well.

Except they forgot the people that gave their daughter around the clock medical treatment, life support, and general care. This kind of thing irks me.

On another forum I frequent, a father of a member was diagnosed with cancer, and the person was asking to keep him in prayer. I told the member that what their father needed was medical advice and treatment, not strangers wishing for you to be all right. Go to a fucking hospital and stop with the bullshit.