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RE: Christian Universalism... You're all (NOT) going to HEEEELLLL!!!
August 7, 2010 at 8:11 am
(August 7, 2010 at 8:00 am)youhadme_at_hellhole Wrote: I never really talked about my faith... I'm honestly not much of a "faith" kind of guy, by the definition christians and atheists use... I don't believe in "blind" faith. Neither do I. You ignore all of that stuff then?
(August 7, 2010 at 8:00 am)youhadme_at_hellhole Wrote: As to trying to be like God... as long as we are confined to the 3rd dimension, and have to use organic-based sensory to interact with our environment... Trying to be like God is like a gecko trying to sell car insurance.
Oh... Wait. The whole point of religious endeavour is to reconcile human fallibility. You clearly bypass it.
(August 7, 2010 at 8:00 am)youhadme_at_hellhole Wrote: Quote:So what does your faith mean to you?
It's worth $124,279.12 ... that's how much it means to me.
(hey, everything has a price tag!) You mean $0?
(August 7, 2010 at 8:00 am)youhadme_at_hellhole Wrote: Sorry, that actually wasn't really directed at you. Didn't mean to be inflammatory. No problem.
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RE: Christian Universalism... You're all (NOT) going to HEEEELLLL!!!
August 7, 2010 at 9:06 am
(August 7, 2010 at 8:11 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Neither do I. You ignore all of that stuff then? Mostly, yeah...
Quote:The whole point of religious endeavour is to reconcile human fallibility. You clearly bypass it.
Reconcile it, or explain it? I can account for it, but I can't fix it in this life... doesn't mean I can't be a theist either.
Quote:You mean $0?
I do have a certain value for faith, but I believe it should go hand in hand with logic.
(August 7, 2010 at 8:00 am)youhadme_at_hellhole Wrote: Sorry, that actually wasn't really directed at you. Didn't mean to be inflammatory. No problem.
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RE: Christian Universalism... You're all (NOT) going to HEEEELLLL!!!
August 7, 2010 at 10:03 am
God's plan of sending people to hell to force them to love him isn't foolproof; usually punishing someone more often than not intensifies their hatred of the punisher.
(August 6, 2010 at 5:05 pm)youhadme_at_hellhole Wrote: I am a Christian Universalist... which means that (GASP!) I don't actually care about converting anyone... so I don't really give two hoots about "your soul" or "saving" you some how. So... you're just like the majority of most decent Christians out there? 
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RE: Christian Universalism... You're all (NOT) going to HEEEELLLL!!!
August 7, 2010 at 6:20 pm
(August 7, 2010 at 1:59 am)Godschild Wrote: One simple example is Free Will. Logic would dictate that if a being exists that is omnipotent and omnipresent, Free Will cannot exist. If that being is all-loving, hell as we understand it cannot exist. Etc etc...
The above underlined is untrue period. Your description of christianity does not match up with the teachings of Christ. How is it that your rejection of a good translation like the New American Standard
means that you follow the original text. In all of Pauls writtings I've not seen anything about everyone will be redeemed.
I don't want to just spout off abunch of scripture where it's not needed or asked for... but I have plenty of scriptural evidence if you want me to produce it.
Quote:So... you're just like the majority of most decent Christians out there?
Yep! For example... I would never bomb an abortion clinic. I'd just cut the docs brakes. Etc etc...
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RE: Christian Universalism... You're all (NOT) going to HEEEELLLL!!!
August 7, 2010 at 7:14 pm
(August 6, 2010 at 7:24 pm)youhadme_at_hellhole Wrote: (August 6, 2010 at 7:03 pm)Ace Wrote: Now, it is extremely rare for anyone to ever witness me saying this....but...I like you.
I am flattered. Truly!
Don't let it go to your head sonny.I'm betting you'll say something stupid soon,and someone will tear a new one.
Oh,I have no idea what a Christian Universalist might be.So far just sounds like a primitive Christian who cherry picks more than most,with a dollop of 'no true Scotsman'. 
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RE: Christian Universalism... You're all (NOT) going to HEEEELLLL!!!
August 7, 2010 at 9:40 pm
(August 7, 2010 at 7:14 pm)padraic Wrote: (August 6, 2010 at 7:24 pm)youhadme_at_hellhole Wrote: (August 6, 2010 at 7:03 pm)Ace Wrote: Now, it is extremely rare for anyone to ever witness me saying this....but...I like you.
I am flattered. Truly!
Don't let it go to your head sonny.I'm betting you'll say something stupid soon,and someone will tear a new one.
Oh,I have no idea what a Christian Universalist might be.So far just sounds like a primitive Christian who cherry picks more than most,with a dollop of 'no true Scotsman'.
Don't forget the dash of Agnosticism! And yes, I have a tendency to say stupid things... you're prediction will probably come true.
Have you considered prophecy? It's very lucrative these days...
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