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RE: Worst Arguments For Christianity
January 20, 2015 at 6:04 pm
(January 20, 2015 at 5:56 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: Even the so-called "sophisticated" arguments from Christianity's greatest thinkers (an oxymoron if ever there was one) are ridiculous and no better than the idiocy trotted out by the most intellectually challenged back-woods hick preacher.
I'm calling bullshit.
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RE: Worst Arguments For Christianity
January 20, 2015 at 7:25 pm
There is no such thing as a good argument for Christianity. Such a thing has literally never existed.
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RE: Worst Arguments For Christianity
January 20, 2015 at 9:01 pm
God speaks to me or any variation of "I can feel his presence".
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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RE: Worst Arguments For Christianity
January 20, 2015 at 9:10 pm
The worst ones in my opinion, are the philosophical arguments.
The cosmological argument, ontological argument, teleological argument, TAG all make the perpetrator of them sound real deep an intellectual, yet they are all flawed. Not one of them are both valid and sound. And no amount of pointing out the fallacies will do anything to dissuade believers from using them.
On top of that, they are intellectually dishonest arguments.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Worst Arguments For Christianity
January 20, 2015 at 9:32 pm
There is an obvious difference between saying "All arguments for Christianity are flawed" or "There are no good arguments for Christianity" and saying that the phrase "Christianity's greatest thinkers" is an oxymoron (it's not, and all of Western civilization was practically developed by thinkers either Christian or sympathetic to it, with a few obvious exceptions) or that theosophers have nothing more intelligent or insightful to offer than the "most intellectually challenged back-woods hick preacher." No one can seriously think that who has taken the time to read some of the greatest and most influential thinkers in history.
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RE: Worst Arguments For Christianity
January 20, 2015 at 10:22 pm
If there is a god, then your in trouble, if there isn't a god, then I have simply lived a good life.
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RE: Worst Arguments For Christianity
January 20, 2015 at 10:55 pm
My brother told me I was an atheist because I am too analytical and think too much. Don't think so much is a pretty crappy argument
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RE: Worst Arguments For Christianity
January 20, 2015 at 11:05 pm
(This post was last modified: January 20, 2015 at 11:07 pm by JesusHChrist.)
Pickup, then why not present one of these great thinkers' arguments for Christianity?
Maybe one I've missed one of the good ones. Heard the ontological, teleological, design, first cause and they all stink. Or have flaws if you are being charitable.
We're talking solely about these great thinkers and their specific arguments for the Christian God.
Which is the least smelly? All I see is turd polishing by intellects that ought to know better.