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RE: Illinois bible colleges: "We shouldn't have to follow state standards because bible!"
January 22, 2015 at 2:48 pm
I want to know where Chrisitans think the line should be drawn. Should rape be acceptable if it's done for religious reasons? Would denying the right to do that be an infringement on their religious rights?
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RE: Illinois bible colleges: "We shouldn't have to follow state standards because bible!"
January 22, 2015 at 2:53 pm
The only special treatment religious people should get is an understanding smile, a pat on the head and, "That's right Jimmy."
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RE: Illinois bible colleges: "We shouldn't have to follow state standards because...
January 22, 2015 at 2:54 pm
(January 22, 2015 at 1:32 pm)Esquilax Wrote: So, some bible colleges in Illinois are suing the state, arguing that they should be exempt from the usual accreditation standards because they're a religious institution and any form of regulation violates their right to freedom of religion. Funny, I didn't realize a big part of practicing the christian religion was just handing out degrees left and right, for no reason.
They argue that they can't "stay competitive" if they can't offer degrees, which right now necessitate a proper curriculum to be given out, but the truth is that they want to stay competitive without having to expend the effort of competing; as seems to be the usual for religious institutions, they want to use the bible as an excuse to do none of the work, but obtain all of the benefits.
They seem to miss the point that schools aren't churches ... again.
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RE: Illinois bible colleges: "We shouldn't have to follow state standards because...
January 22, 2015 at 3:51 pm
Fuck them and their god.
Time to clean out this mess of so-called bible colleges spreading useless shit all over the landscape.
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RE: Illinois bible colleges: "We shouldn't have to follow state standards because bible!"
January 22, 2015 at 3:52 pm
Their certificates need some small print on them like, "For self confidence issues only. No value in reality."
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RE: Illinois bible colleges: "We shouldn't have to follow state standards because bible!"
January 22, 2015 at 4:30 pm
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RE: Illinois bible colleges: "We shouldn't have to follow state standards because bible!"
January 22, 2015 at 4:34 pm
I don't see why they are complaining. At the end of my stay here I'll have to take the FE, a licensing exam for engineers. My college has a +90% pass rates for first time test takers. It's also an accredited program. If they let out students who couldn't pass the FE, they would likely lose that accreditation. Same with the law, medical, educational, and other colleges. So why would a college want to be exempted from this? If their law students can't pass the bar, for example, they shouldn't pretend that their law school is accredited or worth a damn.
But a theology or bible degree is crap anyway. I think even from good schools those grads have poor prospects. So let them put out their crap degrees in that if they wish.
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RE: Illinois bible colleges: "We shouldn't have to follow state standards because bible!"
January 22, 2015 at 10:18 pm
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Useless degrees much... like....
Oh you have a nursing degree but and you use biblical medicine...only and praying... yeah..... no...
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RE: Illinois bible colleges: "We shouldn't have to follow state standards because bible!"
January 22, 2015 at 10:59 pm
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No one is stopping them from printing diplomas or certificates stating that so and so graduated from Jim Bob's Bible College for Jesus. It's just when you want to make that diploma the equivalent to the one of someone who studies at an actual college without being bothered with fulfilling the same requirements on the sole basis of the fact that you think you have some religious "right" to issue divine degrees.
Fuck off.
Time for the FFRF to create it's own "college" in my backyard and sue for accreditation for issuing degrees specializing in logic.
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RE: Illinois bible colleges: "We shouldn't have to follow state standards because...
January 22, 2015 at 11:23 pm
(January 22, 2015 at 4:34 pm)Natachan Wrote: I don't see why they are complaining. At the end of my stay here I'll have to take the FE, a licensing exam for engineers. My college has a +90% pass rates for first time test takers. It's also an accredited program. If they let out students who couldn't pass the FE, they would likely lose that accreditation. Same with the law, medical, educational, and other colleges. So why would a college want to be exempted from this? If their law students can't pass the bar, for example, they shouldn't pretend that their law school is accredited or worth a damn.
But a theology or bible degree is crap anyway. I think even from good schools those grads have poor prospects. So let them put out their crap degrees in that if they wish.
Your last paragraph has it about right; they're doling out degrees in theology while engineering what little structure they have to make it appeal specifically to those students who just want the bible stuff and not the book learnin', so they can sell the courses that require the least amount of teaching, structure and oversight to the greatest number of people who wouldn't have high expectations for their education anyway. Aside from the part where they have to demand to be taken seriously regardless of how lackadaisical they're being, it's basically a way to get people to pay for no education.
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