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Is Prince Harry the best advocate for the UK to become a republic?
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RE: Is Prince Harry the best advocate for the UK to become a republic?
(January 12, 2009 at 3:10 pm)bozo Wrote:
(January 12, 2009 at 7:36 am)Ace Wrote: Revolution anyone? Big Grin
Yes please! Sharpen Mme. Guillotine!

Plan to do what the french did to their monarchy?.....Execute themBig Grin
Hehe!Wink
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#12
RE: Is Prince Harry the best advocate for the UK to become a republic?
(January 12, 2009 at 7:36 am)Ace Wrote: I can't stand the royals. It seems many feel the same way.

I tend to be an anti-monarchist. I hate the monarchy!.........Revolution anyone? Big Grin

+2

America got indepence from our monarchy, it's about time we caught up and did the same.
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#13
RE: Is Prince Harry the best advocate for the UK to become a republic?
The french even today celebrate the end of monarchy.
They executed their monarchy.


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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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#14
RE: Is Prince Harry the best advocate for the UK to become a republic?
(January 12, 2009 at 5:13 pm)CoxRox Wrote: I say Harry for King. Cool

you could add his badge to your collection, even!
(January 12, 2009 at 5:15 pm)Ace Wrote:
(January 12, 2009 at 3:10 pm)bozo Wrote:
(January 12, 2009 at 7:36 am)Ace Wrote: Revolution anyone? Big Grin
Yes please! Sharpen Mme. Guillotine!

Plan to do what the french did to their monarchy?.....Execute themBig Grin
Hehe!Wink

I admire the French for having their revolution!
(January 12, 2009 at 5:54 pm)LukeMC Wrote:
(January 12, 2009 at 7:36 am)Ace Wrote: I can't stand the royals. It seems many feel the same way.

I tend to be an anti-monarchist. I hate the monarchy!.........Revolution anyone? Big Grin

+2

America got indepence from our monarchy, it's about time we caught up and did the same.
Exactly!
HuhA man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
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#15
RE: Is Prince Harry the best advocate for the UK to become a republic?
Bring on the Revolution Big Grin
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#16
RE: Is Prince Harry the best advocate for the UK to become a republic?
What exactly was so great about the French revolution? Disease, starvation, and death sentences to not only the aristocracy but a lot of innocent civilians. And for what? For a corrupt and indecisive government effectively ruled by one person, eventually being overthrown to give rise to Napoleon Bonaparte.

If that is your best example I will pass thank you very much.

Also keep in mind the kings and emperors of those days were the absolute rulers, there was no democracy in place at all. That is a huge difference with the current system. The UK (just like the Netherlands) has a constitution in place that no king or queen has the totalitarian rule the way Louis the 14th had.
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Leo van Miert
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RE: Is Prince Harry the best advocate for the UK to become a republic?
(January 13, 2009 at 4:46 am)leo-rcc Wrote: What exactly was so great about the French revolution? Disease, starvation, and death sentences to not only the aristocracy but a lot of innocent civilians. And for what? For a corrupt and indecisive government effectively ruled by one person, eventually being overthrown to give rise to Napoleon Bonaparte.

If that is your best example I will pass thank you very much.

Also keep in mind the kings and emperors of those days were the absolute rulers, there was no democracy in place at all. That is a huge difference with the current system. The UK (just like the Netherlands) has a constitution in place that no king or queen has the totalitarian rule the way Louis the 14th had.

Well Leo, what was so great was that the ancien regime was destroyed virtually overnight. A regime that was totalitarian rule indeed and which needed to be destroyed. The French chose revolution rather than gradualism, and I applaud " the men of 1789 " for seizing the moment.
I doubt that the first 2 estates would have given up their wealth, power and privileges easily or quickly, so revolution was justified, in my view.
Now obviously revolutions are bloody...that's the nature of the beast and it is true that some innocent people were guillotined. However, the revolution had to be defended and thus mistakes were made.
The revolution was a monumental piece of history and spread hope around the globe....and petrified despots everywhere.
The French are justifiably proud of it and continue to celebrate annually.......and they haven't seen fit to reintroduce monarchy to their country!

Vive la revolution!
HuhA man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
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#18
RE: Is Prince Harry the best advocate for the UK to become a republic?
Quote:and they haven't seen fit to reintroduce monarchy to their country!

But they did, in 1804, 15 years later.
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
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RE: Is Prince Harry the best advocate for the UK to become a republic?
(January 13, 2009 at 1:08 pm)leo-rcc Wrote:
Quote:and they haven't seen fit to reintroduce monarchy to their country!

But they did, in 1804, 15 years later.

They haven't kept it.
HuhA man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
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#20
RE: Is Prince Harry the best advocate for the UK to become a republic?
That's not the point is it? You claim the French revolutions was such a terrific role model while it wasn't by a long shot. The abdication of Napoleon as the emperor of France was not by the French people, but a mutiny be the marshalls he appointed himself.

I would think long and hard about using the French revolution as a template. If you look a bit harder in history i am sure you will find much better examples.
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
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