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ISIS is not True Islam! It's Not!
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RE: ISIS is not True Islam! It's Not!
I always think "who cares?" when people go into the no true scotsman mentality regarding Islam. It doesn't matter if these people are "true Muslims" or not, they think they are and they call themselves Muslim. That's enough to say that these horrific things are linked to Islamic culture, even if it is fringe.
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"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable."
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RE: ISIS is not True Islam! It's Not!
(January 28, 2015 at 2:17 pm)robvalue Wrote: What a bizarre situation that everyone, including moderates, are condemning the actions of those who are most closely following the "word of God". Why aren't they ignoring it while worshipping it like sane people?

OK I'm just repeating myself. But it's so dumb.

I've said it before.

If religions were "nice", religious extremists would be "extremely nice".
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#23
RE: ISIS is not True Islam! It's Not!
(January 28, 2015 at 8:22 pm)Darkstar Wrote:
(January 28, 2015 at 6:31 pm)Roxy904 Wrote: I'm sorry. I've just been waiting to-

"No True Scotsman fallacy!"

Oh man! I guess that means I'm not a True Liberal™ either!

Applies to politics and social issues too. I call myself a liberal but on economics and while also on social issues I do draw the lines at taboos on issues of religion and blasphemy. I do not think the way to problem solve is to walk on eggshells to protect the insecurities of the religious.

Ultimately we are individuals and should look at each other as such first, including atheists. I do not agree with everything other atheist say, and some views other atheists have on certain topics to me are immoral. Both Ayn Rand and Che economic views are to me immoral and too black and white. I have also run into atheists with other new age woo or si fi woo I find absurd. Those differences do not change our common position of "off" on god claims.
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#24
RE: ISIS is not True Islam! It's Not!
Maybe ISIS is the moderates, and the rest of them are all liberal backsliders. We ain't seen the Islamic Fundamentalists yet.


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#25
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(February 9, 2015 at 12:26 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Maybe ISIS is the moderates, and the rest of them are all liberal backsliders. We ain't seen the Islamic Fundamentalists yet.

They're busy with the camels.
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#26
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Agreed ! ISIS is not Islam. Period. There is no True ISlam or False Islam. ISIS people are not Muslims. We, Muslims are also at war with them. We will kick their asses and kill them all.
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(February 27, 2015 at 9:41 am)Khansins Wrote: Agreed ! ISIS is not Islam. Period. There is no True ISlam or False Islam. ISIS people are not Muslims. We, Muslims are also at war with them. We will kick their asses and kill them all.

I suggest you get started, then. You haven't done squat so far.
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Science is not a subject, but a method.
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(February 27, 2015 at 9:41 am)Khansins Wrote: There is no True ISlam or False Islam.
You're right about one thing.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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#29
RE: ISIS is not True Islam! It's Not!
(February 9, 2015 at 12:26 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Maybe ISIS is the moderates, and the rest of them are all liberal backsliders. We ain't seen the Islamic Fundamentalists yet.


Wink Shades

Sure we have....they are the Wahabist shitstains in Saudi Arabia.


(But they have oil......)
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#30
RE: ISIS is not True Islam! It's Not!
Perhaps they're simply acting out the true result of any religion?
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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