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RE: Why I'm Still a Christian
March 3, 2015 at 4:28 pm
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Original sin is all about being "bad" for just being born, for being related to sinners. What else is it? Do you not believe this now? It would be great if you don't because it's a repulsive concept.
Immorality is a real thing, yes. Sin is not.
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RE: Why I'm Still a Christian
March 3, 2015 at 5:27 pm
(March 3, 2015 at 12:43 pm)Lek Wrote: We're not punished for being born, we're punished for our actions.
Genesis 3:19 makes it pretty clear that death was given to humans for the "sin" of eating an apple.
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RE: Why I'm Still a Christian
March 3, 2015 at 5:40 pm
(March 3, 2015 at 5:27 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: (March 3, 2015 at 12:43 pm)Lek Wrote: We're not punished for being born, we're punished for our actions.
Genesis 3:19 makes it pretty clear that death was given to humans for the "sin" of eating an apple.
Right, and I'd like to point out for the record that it wasn't my snack, though I don't think that 'knowledge of good and evil' is a bad thing. Maybe that's my 'sin'.
Or maybe it's all ancient foolishness concocted by humans to pin the blame for mortality on humans.
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RE: Why I'm Still a Christian
March 3, 2015 at 5:41 pm
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I'm just glad they didn't drink milk and Pepsi, can you imagine the torment this merciful god would have thrown down for that?
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RE: Why I'm Still a Christian
March 3, 2015 at 5:42 pm
Maybe God should practice what he preaches and get over a bit of fucking fruit already.
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RE: Why I'm Still a Christian
March 3, 2015 at 5:49 pm
(March 3, 2015 at 5:41 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I'm just glad they didn't drink milk and Pepsi, can you imagine the torment this merciful god would have thrown down for that?
I have it on good authority that they did drink milk and Pepsi. That wasn't a problem per se. The trouble started when Adam figured out how to go a step further and make Colorado Bulldogs. God only condones Boilermakers.
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RE: Why I'm Still a Christian
March 3, 2015 at 5:50 pm
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(March 3, 2015 at 2:21 pm)comet Wrote: non-literal christian is not to bad at all. Literal christian isn't even "evil" all the time. but literal christian people telling us we are sinners? thats a sickness.
Even hitler isn't evil all the time. He wasn't known to have been responsible for torturing and killing people for much of his first 42 years. The only being who is evil all the time in the sense of always torturing some large number of souls would be the Christian God.
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RE: Why I'm Still a Christian
March 3, 2015 at 7:18 pm
(March 3, 2015 at 5:27 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: (March 3, 2015 at 12:43 pm)Lek Wrote: We're not punished for being born, we're punished for our actions.
Genesis 3:19 makes it pretty clear that death was given to humans for the "sin" of eating an apple.
It was for the "sin" of eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Or in other words for being moral as apposed to amoral.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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RE: Why I'm Still a Christian
March 3, 2015 at 7:24 pm
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The gist being that when you don't know the rules, you cant break em...even when you're breakin em. Judaic "innocence", lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Why I'm Still a Christian
March 3, 2015 at 8:33 pm
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(March 3, 2015 at 7:18 pm)Jenny A Wrote: (March 3, 2015 at 5:27 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Genesis 3:19 makes it pretty clear that death was given to humans for the "sin" of eating an apple.
It was for the "sin" of eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Or in other words for being moral as apposed to amoral.
I prefer to phrase it in the dumbest possible manner. Knocks the legs out from under that "we're moral because God" thing in advance.
(March 3, 2015 at 7:24 pm)Rhythm Wrote: The gist being that when you don't know the rules, you cant break em...even when you're breakin em. Judaic "innocence", lol.
Joseph Heller would have a field day with that.
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