How can fundamentalists not wake up?

[RobertE]

Oh boy, you're in for a treat now

I hope so too...They would simply blame external environmental factors instead of blaming someone who is considered as "perfect."

[robvalue]

You'll be amazed at how many things can be blamed, only one thing that can't it seems, the guy who is actually responsible.

[Godscreated]

He gave you life and every day you've lived to this point. You use His creation daily and He doesn't begrudge you it. Besides you didn't create a thing, you just put parts together as someone taught you, God on the other hand needed no teacher.

GC

He, as the bible clearly states, created man in his own image. So, please explain to me how he got it all wrong with the likes of Jon Browner Minnoch, Robert Pershing Wadlow, John Merrick? How about children who suffer from cancer at an early age? How about myself; a sufferer of Epilepsy and also Cluster headaches, which is the worst pain imaginable. What did the aforementioned people do to warrant being large, extremely tall, extremely disfigured because of an extreme form of elephantitis? Please convince me as to how God gave them life, when all they got was a life of suffering and humilation.

God gave them life, as He did you and He is there waiting to help, probably in a way you wouldn't understand or want. He did not make you the way you are that came through the parents and no I'm not blaming them. Genetics forms us in our physical appearance and our physical sufferings. Though you want accept it the fall of man took the perfection out of creation and we've been left to these terrible things and sin continues the way for these terrible things. Those who do not rely on God probably do go through humiliation, He offers His help for them if they will accept, He may or may not relieve the suffering. Don't ask me why I'm not God and have no part in His decisions. No one's at fault for the way they are born, it's not a case of who deserved this or that, it is the way things are. Why do non-believers cry out why did God do this, non-believers should cry out against evolution or accept the help God will offer, that can only be found out by trusting in His Son. Sorry I can't give you explicit answers to all the problems that exist, out of my hands, I know it doesn't seem fair. My wife and I are taking care of a 37 year old lady who was born mentally disabled and at 30 schizophrenia struck. Her family gave up on her and so had almost all who were taking care of her, if you could see the before and after you would be like everyone else and be amazed, I can tell you that prayer was answered and why because I know what's been going on in the last 4 months. She is an amazing young lady who is not embarrassed by who she is and is happy with her life after 7 years of terrible things, day after day.

GC

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Oh boy, you're in for a treat now

You are a most heartless person.

GC

[Spooky]

They don't wake up because they don't want to be killed, or banished from their community. Whether they believe it genuinely or not, they have to tow the line or their lives will be over.

Fundamentalists also perpetuate the cult cycle. Everyone outside of the community is evil, amoral, and the enemy. Outsiders and their beliefs/thoughts/literature/art are craven and dangerous. So, fundamentalists tend to stay inside their self-reinforcing echo chambers, and defend their beliefs and way of life with a zealous fervor. Questions are threats.

"Questions are threats"



Well said.

[dyresand]

God gave them life, as He did you and He is there waiting to help, probably in a way you wouldn't understand or want. He did not make you the way you are that came through the parents and no I'm not blaming them. Genetics forms us in our physical appearance and our physical sufferings. Though you want accept it the fall of man took the perfection out of creation and we've been left to these terrible things and sin continues the way for these terrible things. Those who do not rely on God probably do go through humiliation, He offers His help for them if they will accept, He may or may not relieve the suffering. Don't ask me why I'm not God and have no part in His decisions. No one's at fault for the way they are born, it's not a case of who deserved this or that, it is the way things are. Why do non-believers cry out why did God do this, non-believers should cry out against evolution or accept the help God will offer, that can only be found out by trusting in His Son. Sorry I can't give you explicit answers to all the problems that exist, out of my hands, I know it doesn't seem fair. My wife and I are taking care of a 37 year old lady who was born mentally disabled and at 30 schizophrenia struck. Her family gave up on her and so had almost all who were taking care of her, if you could see the before and after you would be like everyone else and be amazed, I can tell you that prayer was answered and why because I know what's been going on in the last 4 months. She is an amazing young lady who is not embarrassed by who she is and is happy with her life after 7 years of terrible things, day after day.

Again created in his image but god isn't human so we couldn't even be created in his image if he even had one.

[Chad32]

How is it different? He created the world, and my far off ancestors, and that gives him some right over me? Why?

He gave you life and every day you've lived to this point. You use His creation daily and He doesn't begrudge you it. Besides you didn't create a thing, you just put parts together as someone taught you, God on the other hand needed no teacher.

GC

My parents gave me life by having sex, and they have raised me ever since. I appreciate it, and do things for them in return. I do not worship them, and they have no right to my body.

People have built things without teachers all the time. That's how they discover new things. Yes we took what was already there, and made something else. Just like Yahweh did in Genesis, where he took a globe of water and made something out of it. Incidentally, I don't recall any verse that says let there be water.

[Godscreated]

He gave you life and every day you've lived to this point. You use His creation daily and He doesn't begrudge you it. Besides you didn't create a thing, you just put parts together as someone taught you, God on the other hand needed no teacher.

GC

My parents gave me life by having sex, and they have raised me ever since. I appreciate it, and do things for them in return. I do not worship them, and they have no right to my body.

People have built things without teachers all the time. That's how they discover new things. Yes we took what was already there, and made something else. Just like Yahweh did in Genesis, where he took a globe of water and made something out of it. Incidentally, I don't recall any verse that says let there be water.

That's because you haven't spent the time breaking down Genesis through the Hebrew writing. You should search out what the earth actually means. Knowledge is passed down through individuals through time and you've learned from that information, you did not bring anything new to the car's being.

GC

[robvalue]

I've never been on the theist kind side of things, but it seems clear to me that the assumption there is no well-intentioned being of any power keeping watch over stuff fits reality like a glove. Disgusting horrible pointless shit going on everywhere.

Whereas to try and assume there is such a being, you have to smash yourself in the head, contort your brain, short curcuit a load of logic gates and compartmentalize your thoughts to be able to make this gel with reality.

Also I'm feeling a little better these past few days thank the Teapot