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Christians claiming there is no morality without god.
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Christians claiming there is no morality without god.
March 23, 2015 at 6:03 pm
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RE: Christians claiming there is no morality without god.
March 23, 2015 at 6:05 pm (This post was last modified: March 23, 2015 at 6:09 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Plenty of that going on here, currently....they all read from the same bullshit mill, and it runs on cycles (it's monetized...you see.....). Wait a month, they'll be on to something else. Why take it on at all, if they say there'd be no morality without god...and if it weren't for god they be out raping and pillaging...just agree.
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RE: Christians claiming there is no morality without god.
March 23, 2015 at 6:07 pm (This post was last modified: March 23, 2015 at 6:10 pm by Chad32.)
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RE: Christians claiming there is no morality without god.
March 23, 2015 at 6:08 pm
Xtians say lots of stupid shit. Where's the news in that?
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RE: Christians claiming there is no morality without god.
March 23, 2015 at 6:09 pm
As Rhythm says, plenty of threads right here.

There's actually a killer argument against it: What does it say about a person, who needs some ultimate authority to not go out on a killing spree? If they need the threat of ultimate punishment to not be assholes, they are just sad losers.

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RE: Christians claiming there is no morality without god.
March 23, 2015 at 6:09 pm (This post was last modified: March 23, 2015 at 6:10 pm by robvalue.)
Why do atheists want to be our God?

What a moron.

Morality "coming from God" is an unfalsifiable and therefor useless propositon. Objective morality coming from God is a contradiction, it would be subjective to God and therefor only in line with our wellbeing by coincidence.

Theists only follow the morality "given by God" when it lines up with their own, and ignore the rest of it. So all they are doing it using their own morality, the same as atheists do, just they are claiming divine righteousness. The only difference is their own morality may be corrupted by the religious edicts, pressuring them into doing things they wouldn't otherwise do.
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RE: Christians claiming there is no morality without god.
March 23, 2015 at 6:09 pm
No, whoever you are.
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RE: Christians claiming there is no morality without god.
March 23, 2015 at 6:11 pm
(March 23, 2015 at 6:03 pm)because Wrote: [snip]

Anyone interested in helping me take this on?

Not really...? No offense, but we don't know you and we don't know that lady on Facebook. Why would it be appropriate for us to come to your rescue and/or dog pile on her? We're not the atheist fire department.

Howabout you write an introduction in the introduction section, participate here for a bit, and become part of the community?
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RE: Christians claiming there is no morality without god.
March 23, 2015 at 6:15 pm
It seems I need barely a nudge to go into soapbox mode :p Went all glassy eyed again.
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RE: Christians claiming there is no morality without god.
March 23, 2015 at 6:21 pm (This post was last modified: March 23, 2015 at 6:21 pm by pocaracas.)
I'll bite Tongue

Quote:Atheists like to claim that our own sense of empathy should be our guideline for morality. At the same time, they scoff at christians who get their morality from god's word and not themselves. But it's only their mere opinion that empathy should ground morality, and I'm not bound to their opinions. So I continue to ask...why do atheists want to be our God?

The failure here is in "christians who get their morality from god's word".
A few assumptions are at work here:
- There is a god
- This god speaks
- This god has spoken to humans
- humans have recorded that word reliably
- The god is reliably represented by the christian religion

Atheists, on the other hand, assume that... err... people exist and need to work together as a society.

Which seems more far fetched?
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