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RE: If God sent your child to Hell.
April 15, 2015 at 5:11 am
That's a metaphor.
For err... egg timers.
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RE: If God sent your child to Hell.
April 15, 2015 at 6:04 am
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(April 14, 2015 at 11:48 pm)Iroscato Wrote: [...]
My question is...what would theists think of the God who not only let this happen, but specifically planned it as part of his grand scheme for humanity? How would that effect your love for God and your trust in him? I am extremely curious to know.
As a theist, I'd say: "I'm in heaven! Yipppeeee!!! My child?... What child? Heaven, baby - yeah!!!" Then I'd go and snort some more coke off of virgin Mary's tits...
Besides - in heaven god can make perfect replicas of anybody's damned relatives, so the more sentimental among the saved ones never need to know...
(April 15, 2015 at 12:58 am)MysticKnight Wrote: [...]
If someone hates guidance from his Lord so bad that he denies it while knowing it's true, his heart is dark, and I would not want anything to do with him even if he was my son.
Yup. When you're religious - even parental love is conditional. No surprises, since you follow a guy, ready to slaughter his child, simply because a voice in his head told him to.
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RE: If God sent your child to Hell.
April 15, 2015 at 8:39 am
(April 14, 2015 at 11:48 pm)Iroscato Wrote: So let us for a moment imagine God is real
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They will never escape, and God will never change his mind, so their suffering will be as eternal as your own afterlife.
Then I would never stop punching God in his testicles, for all eternity.
Ha! Just kidding. I'd have already been in hell for 30 years.
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RE: If God sent your child to Hell.
April 15, 2015 at 10:59 am
(April 15, 2015 at 3:37 am)abaris Wrote: (April 14, 2015 at 11:48 pm)Iroscato Wrote: My question is...what would theists think of the God who not only let this happen, but specifically planned it as part of his grand scheme for humanity? How would that effect your love for God and your trust in him? I am extremely curious to know.
Godchild answered that one in a similar discussion some time ago. According to him there's some divine lobotomy or brain amputation in stock for those who go to heaven. They will only have happy feelings and therefore not even remember their child. At least that's what I got from his reply back then.
Wat.
I cannot fathom the mind of any human who would be ok with that. That is horrifying to me in ways I can't articulate with mere words....
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RE: If God sent your child to Hell.
April 15, 2015 at 11:04 am
(April 15, 2015 at 10:59 am)Iroscato Wrote: Wat.
I cannot fathom the mind of any human who would be ok with that. That is horrifying to me in ways I can't articulate with mere words....
Welcome to the mindset of a junkie. As long as they get their "fix" - nothing else matters.
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RE: If God sent your child to Hell.
April 15, 2015 at 11:06 am
(April 15, 2015 at 11:04 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: (April 15, 2015 at 10:59 am)Iroscato Wrote: Wat.
I cannot fathom the mind of any human who would be ok with that. That is horrifying to me in ways I can't articulate with mere words....
Welcome to the mindset of a junkie. As long as they get their "fix" - nothing else matters.
Indeed. Someone here has their Religious Views as; A drug like any other. It's a disturbingly close comparison. 
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RE: If God sent your child to Hell.
April 15, 2015 at 11:12 am
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(April 15, 2015 at 5:03 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Lo! Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment. 4:56
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The word there for revelations is "Ayat". As other verses show it means who disbelieve in proofs/signs of God when it becomes manifest to them. This is easily proven that a person unaware of the Quran as majority of humans were of that time, did not believe in it. But disbelieving means when the signs of God come to them.
This is like saying a person who didn't see the staff of Moses turn to a snake is the same a person disbelieving in the miracle in front of his eyes.
A verse states 'That who may perish may perish on a clear proof'
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RE: If God sent your child to Hell.
April 15, 2015 at 11:13 am
There is always a way out of reason and logic for the theist once they buy a naked assertion from the start. Anything goes.
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RE: If God sent your child to Hell.
April 15, 2015 at 11:14 am
(April 15, 2015 at 11:06 am)Iroscato Wrote: Indeed. Someone here has their Religious Views as; A drug like any other. It's a disturbingly close comparison.
Well, yes. Except - drugs are fun...
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RE: If God sent your child to Hell.
April 15, 2015 at 11:17 am
(April 15, 2015 at 11:12 am)MysticKnight Wrote: (April 15, 2015 at 5:03 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Lo! Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment. 4:56
Boru
The word there for revelations is "Ayat". As other verses show it means who disbelieve in proofs/signs of God when it becomes manifest to them. This is easily proven that a person unaware of the Quran as majority of humans were of that time, did not believe in it. But disbelieving means when the signs of God come to them.
This is like saying a person who didn't see the staff of Moses turn to a snake is the same a person disbelieving in the miracle in front of his eyes.
A verse states 'That who may perish may perish on a clear proof' Funnily enough, I have never seen a staff turn into a snake, or any 'miracle' of similar magnitude. If your god is truly as clever as you say he is, perhaps he should get off his divine arse, roll up his sleeves and get to mass conversion. Making all of the goats in the world start tap-dancing in perfect unison would be a start, for example. I'm sure His Godliness already thought of that one though being omniscient. I'm only a lowly mortal, what do I know? 
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