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RE: Rags to riches stories why they tick me off.
May 11, 2015 at 12:36 pm
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downbeatplumb Wrote:Rags to riches tales are at least half luck with maybe some talent and ability, but mostly luck.
You forgot the hard work.
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RE: Rags to riches stories why they tick me off.
May 11, 2015 at 12:56 pm
(May 11, 2015 at 12:03 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Rags to riches tales are at least half luck with maybe some talent and ability, but mostly luck.
... and as the proverb goes, luck is where preparation meets opportunity ... which takes us back to the issue of how much opportunity there is, and whether a person with enough willpower can manufacture opportunity.
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RE: Rags to riches stories why they tick me off.
May 11, 2015 at 1:06 pm
(May 11, 2015 at 12:36 pm)Faith No More Wrote: downbeatplumb Wrote:Rags to riches tales are at least half luck with maybe some talent and ability, but mostly luck.
You forgot the hard work.
All the hard work in the world wont help you if aren't lucky.
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RE: Rags to riches stories why they tick me off.
May 11, 2015 at 1:14 pm
(May 11, 2015 at 1:06 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: All the hard work in the world wont help you if aren't lucky.
Oh, sure, but hard work is an essential component of rags to riches stories. Yes, rags to riches people do get lucky, but it's not like they're just sitting on their ass and it all magically falls in their lap.
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RE: Rags to riches stories why they tick me off.
May 11, 2015 at 2:03 pm
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How about a rags to Rhonda story? I was born with a wooden spoon in my mouth. While my friends had money at the end of the month, I had month at the end of the money. Then one day I got smart. I went to the bank. Told my driver to keep the motor running in case we had to leave in a hurry. Of course, I had to hide for a while. Think. My money problems aren't over cause there's only so much I can buy with money I'm not supposed to have. And the police are still asking questions, so I just want to kinda lay low.
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(May 11, 2015 at 1:06 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (May 11, 2015 at 12:36 pm)Faith No More Wrote: You forgot the hard work.
All the hard work in the world wont help you if aren't lucky.
What's the difference between luck and god?
"I got no luck."
"It wasn't god's will."
Same difference to me. You can if you want to but I will not sit back and be an innocent by-stander in my own life.
I'm 5 years old, and you can't stop me.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
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RE: Rags to riches stories why they tick me off.
May 11, 2015 at 3:48 pm
(May 11, 2015 at 1:06 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (May 11, 2015 at 12:36 pm)Faith No More Wrote: You forgot the hard work.
All the hard work in the world wont help you if aren't lucky.
All the luck in the world won't last if you squander it through indolence.
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RE: Rags to riches stories why they tick me off.
May 12, 2015 at 11:26 am
"Luck' as synonymous with random chance might be a little easier to digest.
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RE: Rags to riches stories why they tick me off.
May 12, 2015 at 3:40 pm
(May 11, 2015 at 3:48 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: (May 11, 2015 at 1:06 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: All the hard work in the world wont help you if aren't lucky.
All the luck in the world won't last if you squander it through indolence.
The only "sguander" I see is not that others obtain more than others. The "squander" I see is those who gain more don't want o accept that the flight takes off at the same time as the poor and the landing is still the same.
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RE: Rags to riches stories why they tick me off.
May 12, 2015 at 8:20 pm
(May 12, 2015 at 11:26 am)vorlon13 Wrote: "Luck' as synonymous with random chance might be a little easier to digest.
In that case, nobody is lucky since random chance is, by definition, random. I can feel lucky but that's no different from feeling that it's god's will for me to play the lottery tonight.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
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