Game of Thrones Season 5 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]

[FatAndFaithless]

Well, it appears to be the latter, though they do say it can be spread through contact. Because Dany doesn't get Greyscale.

[Aroura]

It's pretty unclear in the show how exactly Shireen's doll infected her (skin cells all over the doll? The virus/bacteria living on the doll for a short time after being handled by infected skin?), but it's implied that the infected area is the area that transmits the disease because they keep showing that specific area of Jorah's wrist and then him covering it up, and I highly doubt he'd be so touchy with anyone if he thought he could give them greyscale.


Dany doesn't get Greyscale.

Then it's bad writing.  And I'm not normally hard on the show.  It's a TV show, and I enjoy it for what it is, but it should have internal consistency.
It isn't implied anywhere that you have to touch the infected part of a person, quite the opposite.  If he thinks he's safe just to cover it up, then he's misinformed...OR the show writers need to make it clear that you have to touch the infected part, or maybe it's not contagous in early stages or something.  They have done neither. 

If it can be some dead skin cells on a doll, then the bracer on Jorah's arm is going to be a possible contageous object.  It's possible his character doesn't realize how contagous he is, but from what the viewers know, he shouldn't be touching people!!!  

If they just gave him greyscale just to advance the "I have nothing to lose" story, after multiple characters going on about how contagious and deadly it is, that's just bad writing.

[Iroscato]

Well, it appears to be the latter, though they do say it can be spread through contact.  Because Dany doesn't get Greyscale.

Well, they ARE departing from the books now...

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I kid, I highly doubt they'd do something that drastic. Unless this is setting up for an 8-season-long filler arc involving Dany looking for a cure and the rest of the show grinds to a halt, allowing GRRM time to finish off his books.

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[FatAndFaithless]

Well, it appears to be the latter, though they do say it can be spread through contact.  Because Dany doesn't get Greyscale.

Well, they ARE departing from the books now...

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I kid, I highly doubt they'd do something that drastic. Unless this is setting up for an 8-season-long filler arc involving Dany looking for a cure and the rest of the show grinds to a halt, allowing GRRM time to finish off his books.

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Dany getting Greyscale would literally be like Jaime Lannister getting cancer. It can't even be related vaguely to any sort of point in the books at all.

[Aroura]

Well, it appears to be the latter, though they do say it can be spread through contact.  Because Dany doesn't get Greyscale.

Right.  You know this for a fact somehow?  Even if she doesn't, why not?  Why is Sir Jorah being so careless with the woman he loves and a deadly disease?

I'll go for she's immune or something and doesn't get it (though, what if she did?  Could be interesting plot development), but Jorah's behavior with his contagious arm is inexplicable to me.

[FatAndFaithless]

Right.  You know this for a fact somehow?

Uh..well yeah.. In the books greyscale isn't anywhere near Dany or Mereen, it's a nonexistent issue.

 Even if she doesn't, why not?  Why is Sir Jorah being so careless with the woman he loves and a deadly disease?

In the show..? No idea.

[Aroura]

Well, they ARE departing from the books now...

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I kid, I highly doubt they'd do something that drastic. Unless this is setting up for an 8-season-long filler arc involving Dany looking for a cure and the rest of the show grinds to a halt, allowing GRRM time to finish off his books.

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Dany getting Greyscale would literally be like Jaime Lannister getting cancer.  It can't even be related vaguely to any sort of point in the books at all.

I'm not trying to be difficult here, but how do we know? Perhaps her getting greyscale will be important, as she's immediately halt the infection, thus discovering a cure for it (her blood) or something.  Or it mars her beauty but is cured by a maester.  We can't say for sure.

In the books, Dany is in a a very difficult spot right now, going nowhere fast.  We have no idea how Martin intends her to get out of it or what her character arc is from this stuck point.  Though in the books of course a Valaryian actually has greyscale, so I don't see immunity being it. 

So fine, assume she doesn't get greyscale. 

In that case....it's bad writing to have Jorah touching anyone at all with his bare hands, let alone Dany.

[Aroura]

Right.  You know this for a fact somehow?

Uh..well yeah..  In the books greyscale isn't anywhere near Dany or Mereen, it's a nonexistent issue.

 Even if she doesn't, why not?  Why is Sir Jorah being so careless with the woman he loves and a deadly disease?

In the show..?  No idea.

Because the TV show is doing things in the same order and with the same characters as the books? (not)

Greyscale exists in places Dany intends to go.  Shireen was going to die eventually.  Both story lines could be happening at different times than they would in the books.  We don't know that martin didn't intend to give Dany Greyscale through Jon Connington, or maybe she stops off in old volantis to see the doom before heading back to westeros and gets it there.  OR, again my theory, that she presents us with some sort of CURE for it, and we get that information now instead of 2 books/season from now.
Point is...we don't know.  We can't say what will and what will not happen in this show with much certainty at all.

[CapnAwesome]

Ok, looking it up, the TV lore (not the books):

Greyscale (Game Of Thrones TV Show


"Stannis Baratheon explains to his daughter Shireen how she contracted greyscale as an infant, from an infected doll that he bought from a passing merchant ship from Dorne. By the time they burned the doll it was too late, and everyone said she would either die from the disease, or worse, live just long enough to become aware of the world before it was taken away from her."

"Greyscale is extremely infectious, spread through touch contact with an infected person, or even spread on unsterilized objects that have been touched by the infected."

So you can catch it from touching an OBJECT touched by an infected person.  So not just the infected part of an infected person.  So...Jorah is a possibly a walking contagion machine.  If he knows even a bit about greyscale (and it sounded like he did when he warned Tyrion about them during that fight), then he shouldn't be going around touching bare skin to anyone he wants to live.

This is either a plot device that will come up later (like maybe Blood of the Dragon is immune or can even cure it), or else the writers are stupid asshats to have Jorah get this highly infectious disease, give us detailed information about how it can be contracted, through Stannis/Shireen storyline, and then pretend Jorah can just go around touching people without possible consequences.

Or they just continue with the story because 99% of viewers don't care about the minutia of Greyscale tranmission.

[rexbeccarox]

Ok, looking it up, the TV lore (not the books):

Greyscale (Game Of Thrones TV Show


"Stannis Baratheon explains to his daughter Shireen how she contracted greyscale as an infant, from an infected doll that he bought from a passing merchant ship from Dorne. By the time they burned the doll it was too late, and everyone said she would either die from the disease, or worse, live just long enough to become aware of the world before it was taken away from her."

"Greyscale is extremely infectious, spread through touch contact with an infected person, or even spread on unsterilized objects that have been touched by the infected."

So you can catch it from touching an OBJECT touched by an infected person.  So not just the infected part of an infected person.  So...Jorah is a possibly a walking contagion machine.  If he knows even a bit about greyscale (and it sounded like he did when he warned Tyrion about them during that fight), then he shouldn't be going around touching bare skin to anyone he wants to live.

This is either a plot device that will come up later (like maybe Blood of the Dragon is immune or can even cure it), or else the writers are stupid asshats to have Jorah get this highly infectious disease, give us detailed information about how it can be contracted, through Stannis/Shireen storyline, and then pretend Jorah can just go around touching people without possible consequences.

Or they just continue with the story because 99% of viewers don't care about the minutia of Greyscale tranmission.

That's completely untrue.  If you look around the webz for two minutes, you'll see a ton of people talking about the problem the writers have created.

http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/top...greyscale/