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RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
July 19, 2015 at 3:32 am
(July 19, 2015 at 2:21 am)huss88ein Wrote: Well I came to a conclusion we muslims get our values from a book that's right but u get urs from TV so in the end My values come from a book and yours from a box .
0/2. Both our senses of morality come from empathy.
There are books not worthy reading, and personally, I don't even watch TV anymore.
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RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
July 19, 2015 at 4:38 am
(July 19, 2015 at 3:30 am)Neimenovic Wrote: (July 18, 2015 at 11:17 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: For an Atheist, the first step is to submit to the fact we humans are created in degrees from their archetype and are meant to incline to perfect souls (which is them), and that we do have souls and that they are exalted souls
Hey, there's that word again! I trust you have a nice coherent definition of it....Can I see it plz?
No, really, I'm curious. What the fuck is a soul? There is a very simple answer
You will know when u die.
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RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
July 19, 2015 at 4:41 am
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Hmm. When you die, you know nothing.
So it's nothing?
Ah, I'm always clowning around places.
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RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
July 19, 2015 at 4:42 am
So, you don't know, because you are still alive. Well, at least you admit to that.
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RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
July 19, 2015 at 4:43 am
(July 19, 2015 at 3:32 am)Neimenovic Wrote: (July 19, 2015 at 2:21 am)huss88ein Wrote: Well I came to a conclusion we muslims get our values from a book that's right but u get urs from TV so in the end My values come from a book and yours from a box .
0/2. Both our senses of morality come from empathy.
There are books not worthy reading, and personally, I don't even watch TV anymore. I don't believe that .
Ethics are something you r taught so they r coming from somewhere and if ur ethics come from your own mind then they change according to ur mood and that's gonna make u dangerous and a menace to society.
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RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
July 19, 2015 at 4:48 am
I don't have a problem with someone marrying a child 1600 years ago because it was another time and place, what I have a problem with is people who think this is a god given reason for them to sexually abuse and marry children today.
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RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
July 19, 2015 at 4:57 am
(July 19, 2015 at 4:43 am)huss88ein Wrote: (July 19, 2015 at 3:32 am)Neimenovic Wrote: 0/2. Both our senses of morality come from empathy.
There are books not worthy reading, and personally, I don't even watch TV anymore. I don't believe that .
Ethics are something you r taught so they r coming from somewhere and if ur ethics come from your own mind then they change according to ur mood and that's gonna make u dangerous and a menace to society.
Uhh......no.
Yes, they are learned. But they don't 'change according to someone's mood'. You're mistaking the subjectivity of morality with instability. Your empathy does not come and go with your mood.
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RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
July 19, 2015 at 5:02 am
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(July 19, 2015 at 4:57 am)Neimenovic Wrote: (July 19, 2015 at 4:43 am)huss88ein Wrote: I don't believe that .
Ethics are something you r taught so they r coming from somewhere and if ur ethics come from your own mind then they change according to ur mood and that's gonna make u dangerous and a menace to society.
Uhh......no.
Yes, they are learned. But they don't 'change according to someone's mood'. You're mistaking the subjectivity of morality with instability. Your empathy does not come and go with your mood. Why not ?If there's nothing stopping u. u have no reference for them and it is all about what u think about right and wrong so why can't they change accordingly?
(July 19, 2015 at 4:42 am)Neimenovic Wrote: So, you don't know, because you are still alive. Well, at least you admit to that. Yes of course I admit that it's a part of my relegion to admit that.
(July 19, 2015 at 4:48 am)jesus_wept Wrote: I don't have a problem with someone marrying a child 1600 years ago because it was another time and place, what I have a problem with is people who think this is a god given reason for them to sexually abuse and marry children today. You haven't read any of the posts nor the links did u ?
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RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
July 19, 2015 at 5:11 am
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If you think there is 'nothing stopping you' you really need to learn about evolution. Seriously.
I can't even bring myself to step on a fly as a mercy kill. Clearly there is something very powerful stopping me, and it's not magic. I could break this barrier, I could probably with enough relentless "training" eventually be able to kill humans. But it would be going against my own instincts to such a degree that it's not a choice I can make on a whim. I'm programmed not to do it.
Evolution is amazing, and I can see how its effects can be mistaken by those who haven't studied it for magic.
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RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
July 19, 2015 at 5:11 am
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(July 19, 2015 at 5:02 am)huss88ein Wrote: Why not ?If there's nothing stopping u. u have no reference for them and it is all about what u think about right and wrong so why can't they change accordingly?
They CAN change, and they DO change. Take your fucking OP for an example ffs. Some 1400 years ago it was perfectly acceptable to marry children off like property. Now it is not.
And there IS something stopping me-my empathy and sense of morality. Just because it changes over time doesn't mean it changes every couple minutes.
You're really but the first nor the last theist to trout or that bullshit.
And, for fucks sake, it's YOU. Y-O-U.
Quote:Yes of course I admit that it's a part of my relegion to admit that.
So.......
You're taking about something that you don't know the meaning of. How the fuck can you know anything about it?
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