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RE: Evidence: The Gathering
July 19, 2015 at 12:53 pm
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(July 19, 2015 at 11:41 am)robvalue Wrote: Hundreds of shit arguments do not make a good argument.
Piles of shit evidence do not amount to good evidence.
Yes. Listing 20 fallacious arguments does not add up to one valid argument. And listing a bunch of lies and cons does not add up to proper evidence.
He is mistaking quantity with quality. All it would take would be one good argument. The reason there are 20 in his list is because they all suck. If one were good, it would be enough.
And the tired piles of shit afterwards are equally pathetic. For example, the "Personal Experience" bullshit that he lists even he regards as bullshit when applied to every religion other than his. He is not going to convert to Hinduism because of the personal experience of a Hindu. And the same sort of argument works on all of the other crap, as he is not convinced of miracle stories in favor of other religions proving that those other religions are true, nor is he impressed by the fact that there are writings about other religions.
Really, it is a pathetic pile of excrement.
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RE: Evidence: The Gathering
July 19, 2015 at 1:01 pm
(July 19, 2015 at 12:40 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: I have yet to see you make any attempt at a coherent argument of any sort
Well you'd have to know what one is first.
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RE: Evidence: The Gathering
July 19, 2015 at 1:02 pm
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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RE: Evidence: The Gathering
July 19, 2015 at 1:06 pm
(July 19, 2015 at 12:40 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: As things stand, I have yet to see you make any attempt at a coherent argument of any sort.
Argument for what? If it's about the repeated bullshit assumptions you're posting, we've been there ad nauseam since you came here. As it stands, it's repetition is mildly tiresome and certainly doesn't warrant repeating what we already said on every - I hesitate to use the word - point you're trying to make.
What really interests me is what you expect to get out of it. Do you really consider these to be all convincing killer arguments?
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RE: Evidence: The Gathering
July 19, 2015 at 1:24 pm
Can "evidence from prophecy" be on the horizon, I wonder?
The gods did not reveal, from the beginning,
All things to us, but in the course of time
Through seeking we may learn and know things better.
These things are, we conjecture, like the truth.
But as for certain truth, no man has known it,
Nor shall he know it, neither of the gods
Nor yet of all the things of which I speak.
And even if by chance he were to utter
The final truth, he would himself not know it:
For all is but a woven web of guesses.
Xenophanes
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RE: Evidence: The Gathering
July 19, 2015 at 1:26 pm
(July 19, 2015 at 12:34 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: (July 19, 2015 at 11:37 am)Jenny A Wrote: The Shroud of Turin? Really? Really, really? 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shroud_of_Turin
For the rest you're just rehashing what we killed in your last thread.
Apparently, you are ignorant of the fact that the 1988 carbon dating was flawed due to poor sample selection. This has been well-documented.
It's been questioned but the consensus seems to be that the carbon dating was accurate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbo...d_of_Turin And more importantly, there is no evidence of it's existence prior to the 1300s. That in itself is enough to make it worthless as evidence as there is nothing to tie it to Jesus.
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RE: Evidence: The Gathering
July 19, 2015 at 1:28 pm
(July 19, 2015 at 1:24 pm)Kaninchen Wrote: Can "evidence from prophecy" be on the horizon, I wonder?
Come again. In english.
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RE: Evidence: The Gathering
July 19, 2015 at 1:30 pm
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(July 19, 2015 at 1:24 pm)Kaninchen Wrote: Can "evidence from prophecy" be on the horizon, I wonder?
Dang, I forgot that. Thank you!
I meant to include that under the writings of others section.
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RE: Evidence: The Gathering
July 19, 2015 at 1:31 pm
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RE: Evidence: The Gathering
July 19, 2015 at 1:31 pm
Pick a single "proof" Randy, preferably the best one.
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