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All Hail the Second Amendment
RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
Good going, Canada.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/canad...lf-police/

Quote:Canadian man fatally shoots eight people before killing himself: police
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All Hail the Second Amendment
(December 30, 2014 at 9:49 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Good going, Canada.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/canad...lf-police/

Quote:Canadian man fatally shoots eight people before killing himself: police

I didn't realize that the second amendment was in the Canadian constitution.
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I didn't realize that some people are incapable of understanding how a thread devoted to gun nuts doing stupid shit isn't strictly confined to the United States. Much like how Payday (the candy bar) doesn't give me a paycheck (damn!)

Or are you just trying to be a douche?
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All Hail the Second Amendment
(December 31, 2014 at 1:04 am)Moros Synackaon Wrote: I didn't realize that some people are incapable of understanding how a thread devoted to gun nuts doing stupid shit isn't strictly confined to the United States. Much like how Payday (the candy bar) doesn't give me a paycheck (damn!)

Or are you just trying to be a douche?

This thread is "All Hail The Second Amendment". This clearly is an American thing. Now if it was called " All Hail Gun Nuts" I could understand the Canadian story being here.

With that said, are you just trying to be a dumbass?
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
(December 29, 2014 at 12:36 pm)Minimalist Wrote: YOu better go back and read it again. There are plenty of tales of cops who fucked up. Are they not trained?

Let me tell you something, Chas. "Training" is a panacea argument used by people who have nothing else to say. "If only we TRAINED the Iraqi army!" We did train them. For years. They ran like rabbits. No, even trained people have accidents or make careless decisions. When they do so with guns, people die.

Now that is not the case with this nitwit below. He's your classic gun nut who thinks the 'gubmint' is out to get in.

Now he's short one wife!

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/texas...overnment/

Quote:Texas man fatally shoots wife after Facebook post claims guns are ‘protection’ from government

How is training a panacea? Besides, you didn't address "uneducated, careless fuckwits".

(December 30, 2014 at 9:49 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Good going, Canada.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/canad...lf-police/

Quote:Canadian man fatally shoots eight people before killing himself: police

So, that happened in a country with firearms laws that you would applaud as being sufficiently restrictive, I would guess.
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(December 31, 2014 at 10:05 am)Chas Wrote:
(December 29, 2014 at 12:36 pm)Minimalist Wrote: YOu better go back and read it again. There are plenty of tales of cops who fucked up. Are they not trained?

Let me tell you something, Chas. "Training" is a panacea argument used by people who have nothing else to say. "If only we TRAINED the Iraqi army!" We did train them. For years. They ran like rabbits. No, even trained people have accidents or make careless decisions. When they do so with guns, people die.

Now that is not the case with this nitwit below. He's your classic gun nut who thinks the 'gubmint' is out to get in.

Now he's short one wife!

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/texas...overnment/

How is training a panacea? Besides, you didn't address "uneducated, careless fuckwits".

(December 30, 2014 at 9:49 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Good going, Canada.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/canad...lf-police/

So, that happened in a country with firearms laws that you would applaud as being sufficiently restrictive, I would guess.
I doubt it. He's probably more thinking of the sort of firearm laws that we have over here in Germany.
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(December 31, 2014 at 10:14 am)Vosur Wrote: I doubt it. He's probably more thinking of the sort of firearm laws that we have over here in Germany.

I doubt it. Canada's gun laws are very similar to Germany's. Plus German civilians have both more guns in raw numbers 25 million versus 10 million, and more guns per person 30 per 100 persons versus 25 per 100 persons than Canadian civilians.
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(December 31, 2014 at 10:49 am)popeyespappy Wrote: I doubt it. Canada's gun laws are very similar to Germany's.
Yeah, no, not really. In the USA and Canada, anyone can acquire a firearm for reasons of self-defense. This is not possible in Germany.

(December 31, 2014 at 10:49 am)popeyespappy Wrote: Plus German civilians have both more guns in raw numbers 25 million versus 10 million and more guns per person 30 per 100 persons versus 25 per 100 persons than Canadian civilians.
I'll ignore the fact that you didn't cite a source for those statistics for a moment and get straight to the point: How are those numbers relevant to the conversation?
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The best source on firearms and gun crime around the world is this site. Here are the numbers broken down for Germany

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/germany

I guess the most important part is this:

Quote: In Germany, the annual rate of all gun deaths per 100,000 population is

2012: 1.014

Compare that to my country, where gun regulations are much more liberal and you get:

Quote: In Austria, the annual rate of all gun deaths per 100,000 population is

2011: 2.634

Which is rather in line with Canada.

Quote: In Canada, the annual rate of all gun deaths per 100,000 population is

2006: 2.396

But a far cry from the United States

Quote: In the United States, the annual rate of all gun deaths per 100,000 population is

2011: 10.318
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
(December 31, 2014 at 11:12 am)Vosur Wrote:
(December 31, 2014 at 10:49 am)popeyespappy Wrote: I doubt it. Canada's gun laws are very similar to Germany's.
Yeah, no, not really. In the USA and Canada, anyone can acquire a firearm for reasons of self-defense. This is not possible in Germany.

That's not exactly true. Convicted felons cannot.

There is no place to provide a reason for having a license on the application. In Massachusetts, a reason for owning a firearm must be provided on the application.
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