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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 6, 2018 at 11:35 am
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(May 6, 2018 at 11:33 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Quote:No, there will never be a natural answer to those 4 questions because the answer is already found and it is designed.
lol wrong
And again argument from ignorance and credulity .
One trick pony indeed .
(May 6, 2018 at 11:32 am)Khemikal Wrote: Are you under the impression that theres no such thing as a natural design? Wouldn;t that undermine the credibility of your belief in ID even further? Not only is nothing specifically indicative of design.....the natural mechanism in order to accomplish some hypothetical design deosn;t even exist. And Carrier has already undermined the central ideal of supernatural design.
No, he hasn't. That's impossible. DNA and the universe are designed.
(May 6, 2018 at 11:35 am)mh.brewer Wrote: (May 6, 2018 at 11:27 am)CDF47 Wrote: No, there will never be a natural answer to those 4 questions because the answer is already found and it is designed.
Then what is your purpose for being here and making the argument? If nothing will change your mind (like so many christians of the past/present when faced with new information that does not fit with the god story) it seems pointless and a waste of time. It does not matter what pro/con arguments are put forward, for you there will always be god, for me there will never be.
But if you want to continue to beat a dead horse be my guest. There is still golden ticket at the end. That is fantasy delusion.
Because the truth is right in front of your face and it is in science which atheist seem to cling to. It is found in DNA and the fine-tuned universe.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 6, 2018 at 11:38 am
Quote:No, he hasn't
Yes he has .And you have failed to support it
Quote:That's impossible.
far from it
Quote:DNA and the universe are designed.
Assertion and oneb who's central thesis has been undermined .
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 6, 2018 at 11:41 am
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(May 6, 2018 at 11:35 am)CDF47 Wrote: No, he hasn't. That's impossible. DNA and the universe are designed. It doesn;t matter if they are, that;s why it;s pointless to argue in this direction. I can accept that in some sense dna has a design or is a design - position is entirely open to an atheist. This could only lead to a natural teleology, not a supernatural open. DNA is operated on by known mechanisms. If we're conceptualizing it or it;s product as a design, then the environment is designing organisms...and this leads us right to:
Quote:Because the truth is right in front of your face and it is in science which atheist seem to cling to. It is found in DNA and the fine-tuned universe.
Perhaps it;s not the universe that;s fine tuned...but you?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 6, 2018 at 11:42 am
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Quote:Because the truth is right in front of your face
Yup the truth that ID is bunkum and that it's central theme has been undermined . And it's case has failed as anything more the fallacy .
Quote:and it is in science which atheist seem to cling to.
It's not in the science . It's proclaimed by you who clings to pseudoscience like most believers
Quote: It is found in DNA and the fine-tuned universe.
It is in neither . Only in the propaganda and fallacies of ID proponents and the ignorant rubes they dupe into it .
(May 6, 2018 at 11:41 am)Khemikal Wrote: (May 6, 2018 at 11:35 am)CDF47 Wrote: No, he hasn't. That's impossible. DNA and the universe are designed. It doesn;t matter if they are, that;s why it;s pointless to argue in this direction. I can accept that in some sense dna has a design or is a design - position is entirely open to an atheist. This could only lead to a natural teleology, not a supernatural open. DNA is oiperated on by known mechanisms. If we're conceptualizing it or it;s product as a design, then the environment is designing organisms...and this leads us right to:
Quote:Because the truth is right in front of your face and it is in science which atheist seem to cling to. It is found in DNA and the fine-tuned universe.
Perhaps it;s not the universe that;s fine tuned...but you? Or he's untuned
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 6, 2018 at 11:44 am
Out of tune, maybe, but it;s probably not his fault. 
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 6, 2018 at 11:44 am
(May 6, 2018 at 11:35 am)CDF47 Wrote: Because the truth is right in front of your face and it is in science which atheist seem to cling to. It is found in DNA and the fine-tuned universe.
I reject your hypothesis and nothing you say will change my mind. Why do you persist in the folly? Are you that ignorant and deluded?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 6, 2018 at 11:47 am
(May 6, 2018 at 11:44 am)mh.brewer Wrote: (May 6, 2018 at 11:35 am)CDF47 Wrote: Because the truth is right in front of your face and it is in science which atheist seem to cling to. It is found in DNA and the fine-tuned universe.
I reject your hypothesis and nothing you say will change my mind. Why do you persist in the folly? Are you that ignorant and deluded?
Just responding to as many posts as I can.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 6, 2018 at 11:49 am
Quote:Just ranting at as many posts as I can.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 6, 2018 at 11:51 am
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(May 6, 2018 at 11:49 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Quote:Just ranting at as many posts as I can.
Fixed
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 6, 2018 at 11:52 am
(May 6, 2018 at 11:23 am)robvalue Wrote: Scientific method:
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ID method: It looks designed / I can't believe this could happen without being designed, therefor it's designed.
It tells us nothing, explains nothing, has no practical applications, includes no testable hypotheses, makes no predictions and so isn't science. It's an abandonment of science for the argument from ignorance.
Jung has some interesting thoughts on this, but I honestly don't think you want to hear them.
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