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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 13, 2019 at 5:00 pm
(January 13, 2019 at 4:48 pm)pocaracas Wrote: (January 13, 2019 at 3:47 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: If you can insist necessity in my beliefs, then why can't I insist the same necessity in your beliefs? I assumed the same thing. There would be a necessary regress of greater intelligence. If you insist that is true based on your observations, then why wouldn't it be true as well for the "primordial soup?"
Huh?!
No...look...
You claimed that our intelligence requires some super intelligence to create it, right? Or did I understand it wrongly?
If that is right, then one can say that Intelligence with capacity X (human) requires an Intelligence with capacity Y (with Y greater than X) to be created.
But can the same not be said of Intelligence with capacity Y? That it requires an intelligence of capacity Z (with Z greater than Y) for it to be created?
And another of capacity W (W > Z) for the previous to be created?
And so on and so on, and so on...
Did I misunderstand your point of view?
No. If the "super intelligence" is completely self sufficient, then no need for a regress. That was what I was stating.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 13, 2019 at 5:40 pm
(January 13, 2019 at 5:00 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: (January 13, 2019 at 4:48 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Huh?!
No...look...
You claimed that our intelligence requires some super intelligence to create it, right? Or did I understand it wrongly?
If that is right, then one can say that Intelligence with capacity X (human) requires an Intelligence with capacity Y (with Y greater than X) to be created.
But can the same not be said of Intelligence with capacity Y? That it requires an intelligence of capacity Z (with Z greater than Y) for it to be created?
And another of capacity W (W > Z) for the previous to be created?
And so on and so on, and so on...
Did I misunderstand your point of view?
No. If the "super intelligence" is completely self sufficient, then no need for a regress. That was what I was stating.
To which I asked why is human intelligence not self sufficient?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 13, 2019 at 6:04 pm
(January 13, 2019 at 5:40 pm)pocaracas Wrote: (January 13, 2019 at 5:00 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: No. If the "super intelligence" is completely self sufficient, then no need for a regress. That was what I was stating.
To which I asked why is human intelligence not self sufficient?
If it was self-sufficient, then we wouldn't be having this discussion and you wouldn't be asking me this question.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 13, 2019 at 6:09 pm
(This post was last modified: January 13, 2019 at 6:13 pm by CDF47.)
(January 12, 2019 at 11:18 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I’m pretty sure CDF is a bot at this point.
Nope, not a bot.
(January 13, 2019 at 5:00 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: (January 13, 2019 at 4:48 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Huh?!
No...look...
You claimed that our intelligence requires some super intelligence to create it, right? Or did I understand it wrongly?
If that is right, then one can say that Intelligence with capacity X (human) requires an Intelligence with capacity Y (with Y greater than X) to be created.
But can the same not be said of Intelligence with capacity Y? That it requires an intelligence of capacity Z (with Z greater than Y) for it to be created?
And another of capacity W (W > Z) for the previous to be created?
And so on and so on, and so on...
Did I misunderstand your point of view?
No. If the "super intelligence" is completely self sufficient, then no need for a regress. That was what I was stating.
Exactly, there is no infinite regress problem.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 13, 2019 at 6:18 pm
(January 13, 2019 at 6:09 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (January 12, 2019 at 11:18 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I’m pretty sure CDF is a bot at this point.
Nope, not a bot.
(January 13, 2019 at 5:00 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: No. If the "super intelligence" is completely self sufficient, then no need for a regress. That was what I was stating.
Exactly, there is no infinite regress problem.
Agreed. Honestly, in this forum was the first time I've ever even such a thing suggested. Usually you hear the opposite in regard to "no infinite regress of finite causes." Now we're just looking at it in terms of "intelligence"
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 13, 2019 at 7:19 pm
(This post was last modified: January 13, 2019 at 7:19 pm by CDF47.)
(January 13, 2019 at 6:18 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: (January 13, 2019 at 6:09 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Nope, not a bot.
Exactly, there is no infinite regress problem.
Agreed. Honestly, in this forum was the first time I've ever even such a thing suggested. Usually you hear the opposite in regard to "no infinite regress of finite causes." Now we're just looking at it in terms of "intelligence"
Yeah, I usually heard of it in terms of aliens seeding man on the Earth, LOL. There would be an infinite regress problem if aliens were our creator because they reside within the boundaries of the universe.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 13, 2019 at 7:22 pm
^^^ You two should really get out more.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 13, 2019 at 7:29 pm
(January 13, 2019 at 7:22 pm)IWNKYAAIMI Wrote: ^^^ You two should really get out more.
Why you say that? I get out plenty now...LOL
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 13, 2019 at 7:44 pm
(January 13, 2019 at 7:22 pm)IWNKYAAIMI Wrote: ^^^ You two should really get out more.
Uh oh, another nut gets upset.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 13, 2019 at 8:44 pm
This thread is suppossed to about evidence for a deity.
Strange that the the god botherers can present any at all.
Why is it exactly that they fail to do so? ~Why is it that they keep on attempting to divert and distract?
It is almost as if they have none at all.
Without prompting, my kids figured it out, and I was careful not to lead. Even my ex has abandoned religion. It takes a special kind of nutty to maintain the delusion.
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