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Why did god create evil?
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 Quote:You mean that god created evil but doesn't like evil? I guess that makes sense. Not very "godly" of him, is it?   (November 5, 2011 at 5:12 pm)moslim Wrote: God created evil for the existence good So, the almighty, all powerful being was incapable of creating good without evil? I gotta start makin' me a list of the things this dude can't do!
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy
Good and evil are more than likely just smokescreen words for whatever sort of ad hoc rationalization you've constructed as an anvil to beat your fairy tale into something that doesn't sound completely fucking stupid. Good luck with that.
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 (November 4, 2011 at 8:14 pm)Darwinian Wrote: What about all the millions of people who died in other continents such as the Americas or Australia who could not have possibly known about his coming? What about them? Grace is not given to everyone, that’s why it’s grace. (November 5, 2011 at 12:30 am)I_Blaspheme Wrote: Speaking of the Americas and Australia, how the heck did all of those people get there in the first place (according to young earthers, that is)? …land and ice bridges during the ice age. (November 5, 2011 at 5:19 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Logical reasoning needs to begin from a correct premise. If logical reasoning begins at a correct premise (as you assert and not at an axiom like Logicians actually teach) then how do you know that beginning premise is correct? 
So those people were damned from the start simply for being born in a different place? And Christians wonder why people think they're elitist...
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
Quote:If logical reasoning begins at a correct premise (as you assert and not at an axiom like Logicians actually teach) then how do you know that beginning premise is correct? An axiom is a logical statement that is assumed to be true. I do not grant that status to your assumptions about an invisible sky-daddy. I want to see tangible evidence not mental masturbation performed by believers in nonsense. Quote:I wasn't being sarcastic. I frequently am. (November 7, 2011 at 8:04 pm)Faith No More Wrote: So those people were damned from the start simply for being born in a different place? And Christians wonder why people think they're elitist... When the Governor of a state pardons someone is he therefore obligated to pardon everyone? Of course not, a pardon is a form of grace (unmerited favor). Grace obligated is no longer grace. (November 7, 2011 at 8:16 pm)Minimalist Wrote: An axiom is a logical statement that is assumed to be true. I do not grant that status to your assumptions about an invisible sky-daddy. So logical axioms are deemed true or false by what you grant? You crack me up. I like how you changed it from a “correct premise” to an axiom “a premise that is assumed to be true”. Quote: I want to see tangible evidence not mental masturbation performed by believers in nonsense. So you only accept tangible evidence for truth claims? Do you have any tangible evidence to support the truth claim that all truth claims require tangible evidence? I smell self refutation in 3…..2……1…….
So you are comparing people born in the Americas and Australia to that of criminals undeserving of your God's love even though they had never heard Jesus?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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