(July 23, 2015 at 12:01 pm)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: Reality is based on evidence, you idiot.
There is evidence that subjective morality exists. There is evidence that evolution is how life came to its current state. There is evidence that your god is a fictional contrivance designed to serve the needs of ignorant, ancient people. There is evidence to show that humans have created the concepts of "right" and "wrong" to suit their needs as individuals and as communities. There is evidence for the existence of, well, just about everything that fucking exists. Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that reality exists because there is evidence for it.
Conversely, there is no evidence for your god. There is no evidence for any objective source of morality. There is no evidence that right or wrong are universal forces and not concepts invented by humans. There is no evidence for ghosts, goblins, faeries, werewolves, vampires, demons, angels, or any of the other cockamamie, superstitious bullshit you might have been brought up on. Therefore, it is not reasonable to conclude that any of that shit exists.
How hard is this concept? Seriously? Your "Oh, you just don't have any standard for reality" thing is a Straw Man. Quit that shit. We believe in reality, and we believe things should be supported by some kind of peer-reviewable evidence before they qualify as a part of that reality. Our standard for reality is, in fact, much higher than yours. YOU are the one who doesn't believe in reality.
So you are right in thinking that there is no right or wrong?
Also if I get your understanding of morality correct then morality is might over right? If the majority of people say that a certain thing is correct the minority is of no consiquence? It sure did suit Hitler's needs to blame the jews and then remove them from socitey to keep his hold on power. He and others agreed that it was correct. So according to your view this is the way it should be done and the only reason it is wrong is because other have collected together to say so.
