(July 25, 2015 at 10:22 am)Losty Wrote:(July 24, 2015 at 10:28 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: The latter. Unless we had:
1. A promise to rise from the dead beforehand.
2. Verification of death.
3. Witnesses who saw the person alive afterward.
4. Conversion of both skeptics and enemies resulting from appearances.
You know, the kind of stuff Christians have...
I didn't know you had any of that outside of the bible,
Yes, there is corroboration from Jewish and Roman sources. I provided links to the posts which discuss this.
Quote:which obviously doesn't count as it is no more credible than any other story book.
Incorrect. Ehrman cites the four gospels as well as the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Peter and one other which escapes me at the moment. These are credible sources of information concerning Jesus and not mere "story books".
Quote:How can you have a verification of death when there's no verification of life? Have I been out so long that Christians got all this cool stuff while I was gone or are you just being goofy?
"...he did exist..." (Ehrman, Bart, Did Jesus Exist?, 6.)