The Meaninglessness of Meaning

[Mudhammam]

Nestor, let me see if I understand your opening post.  You are simply suggesting that there is no inherent value in things, that value implies a valuer?  Is that it?

That, yes, and also, does the possibility of such "valuers" existing in any physical sense dissolve alongside the illusion of the "self"? If not, what's the justification? And if the illusion is good enough for us (er... seemingly impossible to avoid, not only in language, but in any subjective - and hence, objective - construct of the world) to maintain such common usage of selves and values, why not other metaphysical concepts, like free will, and even gods?