RE: A few points of conflict with Jackie L's (Eilonnwy) article.
October 25, 2010 at 9:20 am
(This post was last modified: October 25, 2010 at 9:31 am by tavarish.)
Eilonnwy Wrote:If someone thinks race is ever irrelevant, then that's privilege. Plain and simple. It's a fact that there is an atheist community, and that community is mostly white, straight, cisgender, men. We don't live in a world where a person's words trumps race and I don't live in a fantasy world where ~intellectualism is the be all and end all, and that race doesnt matter. You refuse to acknowledge what is plainly there to see, and to your own detriment, no less.
Holy crap, I don't even know where to start with that. It's privilege to want to treat everyone on an equal field regardless of race? Do you understand that this is thinly veiled racism?
I honestly don't know what world you live in, but my actions speak for me. Societal norms that must take into account your race/gender/sexual orientation/any other differences before you open your mouth is something I don't accept, condone, or subscribe to. Why should I check my privilege at the door when I find it irrelevant to even bring it into the conversation at any point? Without it, it's just a bunch of people exchanging ideas on equal ground, and being judged by the merit of their words and the content of their character. How is that at all detrimental, and why can't we strive for this ideal, even if it's not fully realized in this age?
I honestly think you're searching less for equality and more for special treatment and ideological assent. You don't display a want to hear others' ideas if they don't agree with your own.
(October 24, 2010 at 9:18 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: It isn't your own text Tav. It's in your position as male. I didn't mention you as specifically oppressive in your words. I used an example of an oppressive king to illustrate the position of privilege.
You implied that my words were that of an oppressor simply because I am a male. Please explain how.
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