(October 25, 2010 at 12:57 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Good post TSQ, though I think you're dreaming a little if you think the playing field is level.
That Eilonnwy is harassed for bringing up an inequality speaks volumes.
Again, Eil had good points. Great points even - give her what she's due. Somewhere along the way this discussion got slightly out of hand and tempers flared. I have to admit I didn't follow every link to see where it all added up, but I saw enough. I disagree with a few of the accusations she made, but I'm completely outside of all but one of the issues, so what do I know?
I know we're not equal. But I object to making people feel guilty for something they can't help. I'm just pointing out that there's more than one facet to this argument than the two that are being presented: It's folly to think there isn't discrimination and bigotry (some horribly so), and it's also folly to believe that *some* of this "awareness" people are pushing isn't part of another agenda that's equally as discriminatory. There is rarely one solution to any of these sticky issues, but one I see neglected often that should be encouraged in all cases is the ability to shake this shit off. If I let every guy who gave me hell for being a girl bother me, I'd never succeed in anything.
As to our responsibilities, yes, we should help each other out and provide opportunities. But I won't do it at the expense of pride in myself either.
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