Why is Faith/Belief a Moral Issue?

[Drich]

Exactly how you could make such a definitive statement regarding my understanding of love, I have no idea.  

If you do not or can not identify the aspects (in this case long suffering) I can definativly say you do not understand what love is. or your definition of love is corrupt. If you do not have a full understanding of the word love, or can not identify all of it's aspects then you are not in a position to judge it or whether or not what I do here is from a place of love.

Regardless, you're straying away from my initial point that you claim atonement is only offered if you love your neighbor as you love yourself, but you still prance around here like a raging asshole so quick to ridicule and demean anyone that doesn't see it your way with obnoxious ROFL smileys and smug insults.

You are right. But what makes you think this sort of harsh exchange is something I would look to avoid in my own life?

Everything I have done/earned in my professional life is due to me apprenticing. When one decides to learn from the school of Hard knocks, one expects to be 'knocked... Hard.' I have absolutely no issue being 'checked' if I'm wrong. Just look at everything that has been said and how it has been said to me over the years here. Have I ever once in the thousands of posts I've made complained about being corrected on content, or how harshly I was corrected concerning content??

The only time I have ever taken issue with anything said or done here was when a mod told me to use the 'flag a post' button to provide examples of a given innocedent And I did several times and was bann for misuse. That example aside I don't complain about what is said or how unlovingly it was said provoked or not. Look at my first thread here I have like 5 pages of hate mail and you all knew nothing of me. Love is enduring that kind of 'stuff' year in and year out despite what I 'feel' about it, doing the research and follow up on absolutely everything I can possibly answer without complaint.

If you will also note my 'harshness' greatly depends on how harshly I am treated. (Unless I think you are a poe or troll) I do not say take the same tone with a luckie or nope as I do you or maybe a Minnie. Why? Because Luckie or a Nope do not seem to have to prove themselves. Their status here is not contingent on having to be right, therefore they are not abusive or combative, meaning I don't have to be to make a point.

That's not to say I don't have to be abusive or combative to make a point, but again I do feel it nessary to provide you with the same level of 'abuse or combat' you seem comfortable working in. That said In my efforts I am constantly looking for opportunity to dial it back a notch, but if I can not get a similar response I turn to what Paul said: "When in Rome do as the Romans do." Not for the same reason of course, Meaning I don't look to just hurl pointless insults. I really do put a lot of time researching posts, and answering questions. So when I see someone trying to make a sweeping dismissal without any grounds other than typical Christian/Atheist rettoric I do see that as foolish, so if we are learning the school of Hard knocks way I call that person out for being foolish. Or better yet I illustrate how this person is being foolish.

 Loving someone is about having patience with them if they don't see things the way they are and guiding them in a kind manner to the truth so they will be more apt to accept it, not sticking your finger in their nose and laughing at them for not seeing the truth like you do.

For some that is absolutely true, but not for all. To say everyone would respond to that type of effort is foolishness. Like I said I myself would not respect/do not respect people who try and 'win' people over to facts or truth. For me truth is truth, and facts are facts, one is either in the truth or he is not. If he is in error then facts/evidence need be provided. If one will not yield to evidence then their logical processes need scrutinized. Things are very black an white with me. Either something is or is not right. the problem with most of you is atheism allows you to befuddle yourselves with many different shades of grey.
That said
Perhaps I should re-evaluate who it is I need to back off on and who I need to stay the course.

It just boggles my mind just how much of a living, breathing contradiction you are, but you seem to have no problem with it.  Perhaps you're not even aware of it.  I don't know...

Again, the 'contradiction' goes away when on does not assume I want to be treated like you want to be treated.

One more time We are to Love God with all of our being. Next we are to love one another as we love our selves.

The rule is not to love d-bags as they want to be loved or the way they love themselves, but to love a d-bag the same way I want to be loved when I am being a d-bag, and it is destroying my place in all of eternity future.

Again for me that is to say what needs to be said and do what ever needs to be done no matter what it takes no matter how long it take to win me back for d-bagdom.

Great example is how Christ interacted and dealt with obstinate pharrisees. He did not pull any punches, He called them fool Hypocrites, blind guides, snakes, wolves. While these word mean little now for a 'commoner' to address a member of the highest court/Offical in a theocrisy as anything but holy was the greatest of greatest insults. This is the real reason the plotted against him and had Him killed. Because Jesus did not 'love' d-bags the way they loved themselves.

In the end, most were lost, but he did manage to save a few (Nicodemus and Joseph of aremathia come to mind) who were really looking for truth EVEN at the expense of their own pride.

How did He win them over? He loved them by working with them, and answering their questions right up to the point the others killed him...

So I guess your right here. I don't see the contradiction, but again I am not working with a false model of Christ or Christianity, that teaches we have to love people how they love themselves.