A few points of conflict with Jackie L's (Eilonnwy) article.

[fr0d0]

(Historically, )in western culture, the vast majority of so called 'privileged white males' (have been and) still are Christian

That's certainly not the opinion of the mainstream church - far from it. Christians are active and manage to influence decisions, yes. And pre modern Christianity isn't what I recognise as Christian (as in following the teachings of Christ) at all.

yet this has clearly not impacted the eventual adoption of Christianity amongst non-(white males). So to say that if Privileged person holds position X then the unprivileged person is less likely to adopt position X is fallacious.

Did you word that wrong??

This was the whole point of her argument, white men are inhibiting the prominence of atheism. It's false, even the ones who are in fact assholes, like PZ Myers, are still contributing to the overall growth of atheism despite their tone or 'abuse of privilege'.

Yes I think atheism/ any world view becomes dominant more through popularity than reason.

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Just gonna say one thing then I will go back to laughing my ass off.


I have never witnessed this many stupid and fallacious bullshit posts on a forum other then christianforums. The sheer number of overzealous and ignorant/arrogant posts by namely frodo is utterly disturbing.

What is funny is that now he will never understand the real issue at hand, because he has so much emotionally invested in this argument that he won't just give it up. He would look like an utter fool, more so then he already does.*

Now I can properly equate Ely as a theist thinker and frodo as someone who has been mentally stifled, brain damage.

*Note: This is an emotional reason people cling to religion as well. I'm seeing a correlation in frodos case.

^^ This post deserves a flashing border. Just wow! For a moment I thought I was at atheistforums.com