(August 9, 2015 at 8:21 pm)Shinagami Wrote:(August 9, 2015 at 7:50 pm)Godschild Wrote:
I don't know what the problem is with your family, other than what you say. Why not sit down and have an honest open talk with them, no getting excited, shouting, cursing or anything that will derail a real family conversation, have everyone to agree to those things before you start and put religion off limits unless you want to make it a part of the conversation. Go have a real family talk and you could discover many people actually care.
GC
Ah, what's this? A Southern Baptist. I know you well having grown up in North Carolina, Georgia and Tennessee. When it comes to belief in God I really did try. I wanted to for a long time. But I can't believe in something I can't see. My parents aren't going to change. I've tried. My dad's a therapist and the story goes that shortly before I was born his own patient left him a Bible that got him interested in "that Christian thing". My grandpa wasn't religious. My grandma wasn't religious. Come to think of it, my mom wasn't even that religious before then. If I ever meet this woman I will kick her ass.
Yes a Southern Baptist, however you don't know me. I live in Tennessee and have family and friends in North Carolina and Georgia. I've certainly haven't seen anything in these states that should cause one to consider ending their life. It's good you tried to believe in God, let me ask this did you allow God to show Himself to you? You believe in the air you breath yet you can't see it, you believe in the gravity that holds you to the ground yet you can't see it, you believe in light because it illuminates the things you see, yet you can't see it. Yes, you can see the evidence of these things, just as I can, I can also see the evidence of God. What does your grandparents not being religious and your parents being religious have to do with anything, it has been their choice and still is, they have a right to this, just as you have a right to be a non-believer or even a believer if you choose. As for the lady who gave the Bible to your father, that was her right then and it continues to be now. It's not up to you to conform people to your idea of them, trying to change everything about you dislike about those around you could drive one mad, they want to be who they are, just as you want to be who you are. You should stop trying to change people and learn to accept who they are. Enough about all this now, please go and have that family talk and find out some truths in life and share some with them.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.