(August 12, 2015 at 10:48 pm)Beccs Wrote: I've always said that the hard-line communist states weren't atheistic. They replaced the worship of a deity with the worship of the state or a cult of personality based around a person. That, to me, is not atheism.
Look at North Korea, as Hitchens pointed out, they basically have a trinity.
As to the Nazis, who can truly say that they were ALL Christians. Certainly many were, though their Christianity had much paganism among the tenets (just as Christianity does today). Certainly the main doctrine was religiously based.
ANd many of the leaders adhered to the doctrines of the core beliefs. But then, with the fanaticism of the inner circle, not to do so would likely mean death.
Meh how do you justify scientific racism with the bible? Seriously, google 'california eugenics' and see where Hitler learned the core tennets. As for your comment that communist states werent't atheistic, that's kinda like saying salt water is not salty. Did you know there was a census on Soviet Russia during Stalin's time that revealed a significant part of the population believed in god? What happened? Well it was hidden because under the normal rules all those people would have to be considered traitors and 'taken care of'. Atheism is almost fundamental to communism and while there are some deviations it remains the rule because of Marx's dialectical materialism
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