RE: Fact, every single german nazi was a christian
August 13, 2015 at 11:11 am
(This post was last modified: August 13, 2015 at 11:12 am by Thumpalumpacus.)
The thread's title is obviously ridiculous. "Every single German NaZi" -- as if the OP has conducted a poll and spoken to every single one! And simply presenting a roll of quotes doesn't support this ridiculous assertion, either.
I'd like to see a link to something supporting this claim. I've never been to the old Soviet Union, but everything I've read about it indicates that while the Orthodox Church was persecuted at times, particularly before the Second World War, people weren't incarcerated simply for being faithful, much less executed as traitors. That is according to Solzhenitsyn in The GULag Archipelago.
The only group he mentions being targeted because of their faith were the Anabaptists, and that wasn't for their faith in and of itself, but rather, the profound pacifism it preaches. Anabaptists refused to serve in the Soviet armed forces, so the Soviets gathered them all up -- and there weren't many -- and put them in work camps, not executed them. Of course, those who went to camps like Kolyma or Vorkuta were worked to death; but being religious in the USSR was not a capital offense, indeed hardly an offense at all.
Per Wikipedia:
This canard is often tossed about by the religious in order to smear atheists, but it's wrong. Stalin et al did not kill the faithful in the name of atheism.
(August 12, 2015 at 11:08 pm)Dystopia Wrote: Did you know there was a census on Soviet Russia during Stalin's time that revealed a significant part of the population believed in god? What happened? Well it was hidden because under the normal rules all those people would have to be considered traitors and 'taken care of'.
I'd like to see a link to something supporting this claim. I've never been to the old Soviet Union, but everything I've read about it indicates that while the Orthodox Church was persecuted at times, particularly before the Second World War, people weren't incarcerated simply for being faithful, much less executed as traitors. That is according to Solzhenitsyn in The GULag Archipelago.
The only group he mentions being targeted because of their faith were the Anabaptists, and that wasn't for their faith in and of itself, but rather, the profound pacifism it preaches. Anabaptists refused to serve in the Soviet armed forces, so the Soviets gathered them all up -- and there weren't many -- and put them in work camps, not executed them. Of course, those who went to camps like Kolyma or Vorkuta were worked to death; but being religious in the USSR was not a capital offense, indeed hardly an offense at all.
Per Wikipedia:
Quote:The main religions of pre-revolutionary Russia persisted throughout the entire Soviet period, but they were only tolerated within certain limits. Generally, this meant that believers were free to worship in private and in their respective religious buildings (churches, mosques, etc.), but public displays of religion outside of such designated areas were prohibited.
This canard is often tossed about by the religious in order to smear atheists, but it's wrong. Stalin et al did not kill the faithful in the name of atheism.
