(August 17, 2015 at 3:10 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:Chad, it would be great if you could stop "assuming" everything. No I didn't mean those objectively, those examples are from my perspective and is hence subjective.(August 17, 2015 at 2:36 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: 'Evil', like 'good' is subjective. The rule of thumb is basically that we take what is beneficial to humans, society, our species in general and call that 'good' and we take what is harmful to us and we call it 'bad' or immoral.
Both you and Magi answer only to immediately retract it. First you say that good and evil are subjective and then you qualify it by asserting that some things (objectively I assume) are beneficial or harmful. When you identify a benefit or harm you make a value judgement. Why does collective survival trump self-preservation? All death and suffering is personal and cannot be added.
(August 17, 2015 at 3:18 pm)GenericAthiest Wrote:1) Calling people stupid is pretty rude.(August 17, 2015 at 2:54 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: Not quite. Only a specific portion of humanity(sadly, they belong to the same species), following a specific inconsistent belief system, is termed as sinners. Most other belief and non-belief systems don't have that concept.Are you fucking stupid? I said "some people' do this.
2) I was referring to the last part you wrote "yet human beings are the only ones who are "sinners".". In case you haven't heard, there are sects even within christianity who don't apply the concept of sin in some cases, like the death of newborn babies, because they don't want to imagine their "unsaved" babies being roasted in hell.
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