The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work

[Redbeard The Pink]

I apologize I was unclear I wanted to know what human authority you were basing your statements off of.
The Bible is not a science text book and when God was speaking to the Hebrews He was speaking to them in ways that they would understand. If God explained how he created the universe you wouldn't even understand it.

I'm vaguely aware of what you're trying to trick me into saying and what line of argument you intend to employ if you succeed, but the problem is that what you're trying to get me to say isn't actually true, so it's not likely that I'm going to say it. I do not have a "human authority" for what I'm saying, nor a divine one. My statements are based on objective reality and truth as displayed by evidence. My knowledge and understanding of that evidence will always be limited by my perception and mental capacity, but the simple fact is that my beliefs and claims are not based on anyone's authority, they are based on objective reality as it demonstrably exists.


There is no reason to believe that a perfect, omniscient Gaud could not have convinced ancient peoples to understand and believe science. They believe every other word that's claimed to fall out of his face-hole, so why wouldn't they believe that the Earth is billions of years old and everything is made up of tiny particles?

Still wither your comment is hypothetical or not you can't make this argument because your world view does not support it. Even if being alive is against the odds that is not a good enough reason. An oddity does not give a thing worth or else we would celebrate every thing that is highly unlikely to happen as a good thing. Whenever you claim anything is evil or good you are being inconsistent and borrowing from my world view. Why would a living thing have more worth than a non living thing? It all started the same and it is still made up of atoms. There is nothing in your world view that can unequivocally give a person, an animal or our planet any worth. It is all just atoms banging against each other. Yes the odds are amazing way too amazing to not think that someone isn't tinkering with things. If I am playing poker with you and every hand I get is full of aces you would think I had rigged the game. Yet when it comes to the universe you leave it up to happenstance. People have worth more than just the fact that we can experience life because you have the finger print of the God of creation on you. You bear the image of the living God and that God deemed it worth while to set aside all of His right to make you right with Him by dieing on the cross for your sins. He could have destroyed everything and not allowed this very moment to happen but He didn't. He though that you are worth this moment. He will right every wrong one way or another but He enjoys giving mercy without sacrificing His justice. Life is even more rich in the presence of God. I don't need to strive for the after life either I can live not with God and the rest of eternity for God. If I live it is for the Glory of God and if I die I get to see even more fully the beauty and mystery of the God of glory. My life is good and my death is good because my death ushers me fully into the presences of God and all of those who love Him. It will be fantastic and something I am looking forward to but not trying to rush because I am willing to wait for God's timing.

Kindly refrain from telling me what arguments I can make from my world view when you still obviously don't understand my world view or the actual argument I made.


Rarity isn't the only reason life is precious, and it's not the only reason I gave. The actual reason it's precious to us as individuals (as I already stated) is that it is by far the most valuable resource any of us has. We each get one life and only one, and the minutes in it are finite. Once it runs out, that's it. That means all that any of us really has is this exact moment and the memories of the moments that have come before. Those moments are your life. You owe it to yourself to make as many of those moments as good as possible, and you owe it to others to not stop them from doing the same. That's the basis of my morality and the value of my life; I recognize that this life is the only one I get, and so it stands to reason I should take care of it and make it as good as possible and allow others to do the same.


As I've laboriously stated in previous posts (and yet you still fail to understand), good and evil are human concepts to describe categories of ideas and experiences. I did not borrow them from your stupid religion. Your religion borrowed the idea from the rest of human history, among whom the ideas of good and evil existed for probably thousands of years before the early stages of your little cult even started forming. Even animals have a rudimentary understanding of the concepts that suffering and death are bad while pleasure and health are good. It does not take higher understanding to make use of these concepts. Good and evil are simply evolved forms of these basic animal thought processes.


The simple truth is that I've already wasted too many of the precious moments of my life praying, attending church, and giving money to charlatans and sheeple, and damaging relationships and potential relationships with the constraints of a backward world view, and I do not intend to waste any more of them in like fashion. I'm glad I rid myself of faith early enough to enjoy the remaining two thirds or so of my life without the delusion, suffering, and drain on my resources that religion used to produce in my life. Simply put: I'm worth too much to be religious. So are you.