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Humanism
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RE: Humanism
(August 25, 2015 at 2:34 pm)TRJF Wrote: There are a million ways to define progress.  That there's no objective progress does not mean that it is impossible or inadvisable to pursue subjective progress.

Of course that begs the question of whether there is some underlying logic to morality which we may steer toward subjectively. But what could this be except an examination of our innate prosocial impulses to extract and generalize what we can? One can imagine all manner of questionable generalizations becoming inadvertently ensconced by such a project. Perhaps there should be an imperative regarding grooming, like "groom least thee not be groomed"? In the end the best we can do is distill what seems to us the least burdensome oughts which will provide the minimal degree of consideration which we would like to see returned.

(August 25, 2015 at 2:34 pm)TRJF Wrote: Humanity can 1) plan on timescales far in excess of a human lifetime,

.. and yet strangely almost never does so except under the most soul crushing totalitarian systems.

(August 25, 2015 at 2:34 pm)TRJF Wrote: 2) alter its own genetic code,

Say hello to eugenics and GMO's.

(August 25, 2015 at 2:34 pm)TRJF Wrote: and 3) reach other celestial bodies.

An important out once we have overrun the petri dish of our own planet.

(August 25, 2015 at 2:34 pm)TRJF Wrote:  
There's no inherent property of evolution that says an organism can't advance to a point where it knows enough about itself to change itself.

No, not evolution. This is where historic example and life experience comes in.
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Humanism - by Kingpin - August 25, 2015 at 2:11 pm
RE: Humanism - by abaris - August 25, 2015 at 2:19 pm
RE: Humanism - by Kingpin - August 25, 2015 at 2:29 pm
RE: Humanism - by Whateverist - August 26, 2015 at 8:14 am
RE: Humanism - by TheRealJoeFish - August 25, 2015 at 2:34 pm
RE: Humanism - by Whateverist - August 26, 2015 at 8:36 am
RE: Humanism - by TheRealJoeFish - August 26, 2015 at 9:41 am
RE: Humanism - by Pyrrho - August 25, 2015 at 7:11 pm
RE: Humanism - by AFTT47 - August 25, 2015 at 8:13 pm
RE: Humanism - by Alex K - August 25, 2015 at 8:31 pm
RE: Humanism - by robvalue - August 26, 2015 at 3:35 am
RE: Humanism - by Fake Messiah - August 26, 2015 at 3:51 am
RE: Humanism - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 26, 2015 at 4:43 am
RE: Humanism - by Whateverist - August 26, 2015 at 8:49 am
RE: Humanism - by robvalue - August 26, 2015 at 6:40 am
RE: Humanism - by brewer - August 26, 2015 at 7:40 am
RE: Humanism - by Kingpin - August 26, 2015 at 7:44 am
RE: Humanism - by Alex K - August 26, 2015 at 8:15 am
RE: Humanism - by Pyrrho - August 26, 2015 at 9:18 am
RE: Humanism - by Whateverist - August 26, 2015 at 8:09 am
RE: Humanism - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 26, 2015 at 8:53 am
RE: Humanism - by Whateverist - August 26, 2015 at 9:49 am
RE: Humanism - by Kingpin - August 26, 2015 at 9:53 am
RE: Humanism - by Ben Davis - August 26, 2015 at 11:52 am
RE: Humanism - by AFTT47 - August 27, 2015 at 1:38 am
RE: Humanism - by Ben Davis - August 27, 2015 at 6:04 am
RE: Humanism - by robvalue - August 27, 2015 at 1:13 am
RE: Humanism - by robvalue - August 27, 2015 at 1:53 am
RE: Humanism - by Alex K - August 27, 2015 at 6:24 am
RE: Humanism - by robvalue - August 27, 2015 at 6:29 am

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