The scientific version of good and bad

[Detective L Ryuzaki]

This will be my final post here. I fear that a continued discussion with you will only serve to reinforce your deluded thought processes. Please continue with treatment.

Actually, I am completely open to the possibility of my theory being false unlike most deluded people.  So please feel free to continue to discuss with me from that previous post I just made.  That post also explains some life issues I am having as well.

I am going to give an imagined response and my reply to it right here to get my point across:

Response: No, I don't agree with your theory. I think you are delusional. I have clearly given you a reason that supports the moral version of good and bad. Do you honestly think that the acts of a sociopath deriving pleasant emotions from harming others is nothing bad?

My Reply: But I have given plenty of support for my theory as well. So who is right and who is wrong? It would all have to come down to science to decide. It would all have to come down to scientific experiments to decide this one.

But I will leave you with this. First off, to say that you have good meaning in your life would be to say that you have a reward in your life. That good meaning is a reward to you. There is no such thing as good meaning that is not rewarding to us as I've explained in my theory.

So a person who is having nothing but disrewarding pain and misery who tells his/herself that him/her going to the hospital is of good value and worth to him/her, then that would be no different than saying that him/her going to the hospital is a reward to him/her.

But if he/she is not having any rewarding experience (pleasant emotions) at the moment, then that would not be of any good value and worth to him/her during that given moment of pain and misery. Only when his/her wounds are attended to and he/she then derives pleasant emotions from his/her recovery would this then be the moment of good value and worth to him/her.
Another thing here. If someone said something such as:

"I got no rewarding experience out of this. But the important thing here is that I made the lives of others good and worth living."

Then that very quoted message would be of good value and worth to you. It would be a rewarding experience for you. Here again, if you had no pleasant emotions, then it would be of no good value and worth to you. It would mean nothing to you that you lived to help others and brought their lives good meaning.

Also, an anhedonic and/or depressed bank robber who steals money would not be the reward for him/her. That money would not be any reward for him/her at all. The reward instead comes from our rewarding experiences (our pleasant emotions). It would be no different than if a blind or deaf bank robber robbed a bank and you said that his/her stolen money is his/her sight or hearing.

Now going back to my example with the person living his/her life screaming while being lit on fire, this is one very significant valid supporting viewpoint for my theory. Since it is us having bad meaning in our lives that results in us refraining from our goals and dreams and committing suicide and since it is impossible for someone to choose to live their entire lives and fully pursue their goals and dreams while being lit on fire and screaming, then it goes to show you here that it is impossible for you to not have any bad meaning in your life when you are going through pain and misery (having unpleasant feelings/emotions).

Therefore, it goes to show you that our unpleasant feelings/emotions do give our lives bad meaning and that it has nothing to do with our way of thinking.