(February 18, 2009 at 10:36 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: But even LEPRECHAUNS are based on people somewhat.Aye, and unicorns are horses with horns, werewolves are wolf men, etc. But that doesn't mean there was any one horse or wolf on which unicorns and werewolves are based. Jesus is
Just as David Hume said how we take things from the real world and put them together.
E.G: Angels for example - and put very simply and basically - are people (real) and they have wings ( wings are also real) but they're put together to form something that doesn't really exist. So you get winged people.
(February 18, 2009 at 10:36 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: What I'm wondering isn't statistically most people and characters based on someone or something similar enough rather than just made up completely out of scratch?It's not that improbable; it is quite plausible indeed. But the point is that it's not as probable as the 'complete fabrication' idea.
Surely its not THAT improbable that Jesus of the bible could have been stolen from some bloke who really existed.
(February 18, 2009 at 10:36 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Yes its postulating an entity for Jesus to be based on. It is simpler to have no entities.Not necessarily. There are countless millions of characters in texts of dubious factual basis, old religious texts being at the top of that pile.
But maybe its more likely for something to be based on something else - be based on another entity - than made up altogether?
Aren't MOST things based on other things? And an awful lot of 'characters' are based on real people aren't they?
Do you believe the Bible's Adam, or Noah, or Moses, are based on a real person?
(February 18, 2009 at 10:36 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: If Jesus is more likely to be completely made up I don't think its that under 50% that someone simply got the idea from some bloke who was inspiring or at least interesting enough to make up such nonsense!! I dunno?It's entirely plausible, yes, but given the total lack of evidence, we have to defer to the logical stance: there is absolutely no evidence or rationale supporting the existence (exaggerated or otherwise) of Jesus, so postulating that he did exist is as much a stab-in-the-dark as the idea that he is the Son of God.
It all come down to evidence. If you don't have evidence or rationale for the existence of something, then it is more probable that it doesn't/didn't exist in the first place.
"I am a scientist... when I find evidence that my theories are wrong, it is as exciting as if the evidence proved them right." - Stargate: SG1
A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, -- a mere heart of stone. - Charles Darwin
A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, -- a mere heart of stone. - Charles Darwin