Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: December 26, 2024, 6:36 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Humanism
#28
RE: Humanism
(August 27, 2015 at 1:38 am)AFTT47 Wrote: I don't mind owning up to some degree of faith. We Secular Humanists have a decidedly optimistic outlook based on the assumption that not only are we capable of doing great things but that we WILL do great things. We can make an evidence-based argument for that based on the track record of our species - particularly the meteoritic rise of knowledge and technology of the past few centuries and the ever increasing rate of that rise - but it's certainly not a slam dunk. Our optimism is colored by emotional bias to some degree. So what? What's the consequences if we're wrong? Where's the harm of striving towards excellence and having faith that we will achieve it? Far better than sloughing through life, whining whoa is me and we suck IMO.
I agree but I don't like to call it 'faith' because of the automatic association that people will make with religious definitions of the word. To me, there's a big difference between unsupported faith in the power of a supernatural entity to provide progress on our behalf and supported confidence in the power of people to make our own progress. I'd go as far to suggest that any human progress that religions claim has been made by their supernatural entity can be explained, more coherently & elegantly, by claims of human agency. We know that humans can do good & bad things; we have evidence of that. We also know that most people will do good things rather than bad. We can see an upward trend, over time, in civilised development. Consequently, humanistic confidence is well justified and arguably the most appropriate ideology for fulfilling human potential. 'Confidence', yes; 'earned trust', yes; 'faith', no.

Religions have been co-opting human effort for so long, in order to prop up their definition of 'faith', that the word has become practically meaningless. It's about time people took credit for what they've accomplished, both good & bad, so that we can properly accept the collective responsibilities generated by our intellect. Words like 'faith' are counter-productive to that end.
Sum ergo sum
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Humanism - by Kingpin - August 25, 2015 at 2:11 pm
RE: Humanism - by abaris - August 25, 2015 at 2:19 pm
RE: Humanism - by Kingpin - August 25, 2015 at 2:29 pm
RE: Humanism - by Whateverist - August 26, 2015 at 8:14 am
RE: Humanism - by TheRealJoeFish - August 25, 2015 at 2:34 pm
RE: Humanism - by Whateverist - August 26, 2015 at 8:36 am
RE: Humanism - by TheRealJoeFish - August 26, 2015 at 9:41 am
RE: Humanism - by Pyrrho - August 25, 2015 at 7:11 pm
RE: Humanism - by AFTT47 - August 25, 2015 at 8:13 pm
RE: Humanism - by Alex K - August 25, 2015 at 8:31 pm
RE: Humanism - by robvalue - August 26, 2015 at 3:35 am
RE: Humanism - by Fake Messiah - August 26, 2015 at 3:51 am
RE: Humanism - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 26, 2015 at 4:43 am
RE: Humanism - by Whateverist - August 26, 2015 at 8:49 am
RE: Humanism - by robvalue - August 26, 2015 at 6:40 am
RE: Humanism - by brewer - August 26, 2015 at 7:40 am
RE: Humanism - by Kingpin - August 26, 2015 at 7:44 am
RE: Humanism - by Alex K - August 26, 2015 at 8:15 am
RE: Humanism - by Pyrrho - August 26, 2015 at 9:18 am
RE: Humanism - by Whateverist - August 26, 2015 at 8:09 am
RE: Humanism - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 26, 2015 at 8:53 am
RE: Humanism - by Whateverist - August 26, 2015 at 9:49 am
RE: Humanism - by Kingpin - August 26, 2015 at 9:53 am
RE: Humanism - by Ben Davis - August 26, 2015 at 11:52 am
RE: Humanism - by AFTT47 - August 27, 2015 at 1:38 am
RE: Humanism - by Ben Davis - August 27, 2015 at 6:04 am
RE: Humanism - by robvalue - August 27, 2015 at 1:13 am
RE: Humanism - by robvalue - August 27, 2015 at 1:53 am
RE: Humanism - by Alex K - August 27, 2015 at 6:24 am
RE: Humanism - by robvalue - August 27, 2015 at 6:29 am

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Why Atheism/Secular Humanism... Part II TheReal 53 27294 April 23, 2018 at 4:48 pm
Last Post: Mystic
Heart Humanism shadow 10 3129 March 14, 2018 at 5:19 pm
Last Post: shadow
  Humanism as I see it xpastor 7 3031 January 3, 2014 at 12:02 pm
Last Post: xpastor
  Heartless Humanism? mralstoner 3 2797 January 2, 2014 at 1:11 pm
Last Post: Kayenneh
  Is Atheistic Humanism the ideology of the Anglo-Sphere? theyear12013 14 6112 January 2, 2014 at 1:30 am
Last Post: theyear12013
  I don't understand what exactly Secular Humanism is pop_punks_not_dead 7 3763 February 22, 2013 at 9:26 pm
Last Post: Baalzebutt
  Why Atheism and Secular Humanism are Failed Philosophies TheReal 110 35577 December 6, 2011 at 3:27 pm
Last Post: JollyForr
Thumbs Down Humanism 5thHorseman 21 6828 September 22, 2011 at 1:47 am
Last Post: thesummerqueen
  Humanism [Split] theVOID 10 4617 December 18, 2010 at 6:56 am
Last Post: thesummerqueen



Users browsing this thread: 4 Guest(s)