CapnAwesome Wrote:Funny, it didn't reach the Middle East the first time, but would have through the magic of Christian geopolitics? Good point about the Christians of Mo's era not enslaving the religious minorities around them, they were a shining example to modern day Muslims. If only they would look to the Crusading popes instead of their prophet.Mister Agenda Wrote:If Islam (or some other new religion) hadn't come along, the region would be largely Orthodox Christian. It would still be tribal, the women would still be covering their heads. If their political history remained roughly the same (we still deposed the Shah's predecessor, we still supported the rural tribes against the Soviets in Afghanistan, we still deposed the secular strongman ruling Iraq, etc.), you think we wouldn't be having these problems if the region were predominantly Christian?
If they were christian maybe they would have gone through both the reformation and the enlightenment. They also probably wouldn't be using the example of Muhammad to enslave religious minorities around them, as ISIS does. That is a direct out growth of Islam. I'll never understand Atheist Islamophiles.
ISIS is a direct outgrowth of the USA deposing Saddam Hussein and throwing his Bathist Party bureacratic and military personnel on the street to later perform a critical role in forming ISIL. It literally would not exist if we had not invaded Iraq. Just like the Taliban would likely not exist if the USA had not supported the Mujahadeen when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. Also, we militarily support the regime that is the primary exporter of Wahabbism, not to mention supporting it financially with oil revenues.
The parallel history in which the Middle East and North Africa have fewer fanatics is the one where we didn't fuck with them over and over again for the last eighty years.
I'm not an Islamophile. I just like the things people say to be accurate.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.