(September 10, 2015 at 1:36 pm)Rekeisha Wrote: Ambiogensis hasn't been scientifically proven and you believe it yet you don't believe the Bible (even though it has more evidence backing it up) because it isn't scientifically proven. I think you have a double standard. If you come to the Fossil records with the wrong foundation your conclusions will be wrong. If you do not want to admit you are a sinner and in need of God's salvation through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ then you will find other ways to justify you current lifestyle.
I wouldn't exactly say abiogenesis hasn't been scientifically proven. Like I said, we understand many if not most of the mechanisms that are most likely to go into it, and it follows reasonably that life must be able to develop from non-living material because the evidence scattered throughout the planet we're on right now indicates that Earth didn't always have life on it, and now it does. That definitely happened somewhere along the line, and it must have started somehow. Because my belief is based on evidence and yours is not, mine does not require faith, while yours does.
What you're trying to do is paint atheists as holding beliefs based on faith so you can then turn and say, "See, we both believe on faith! Why can't you just let me believe what I want?!"
What you're failing to recognize is that for us, belief is not a choice. I didn't choose to stop believing in God. I didn't choose to stop believing I would go to heaven when I die. Parts of that mythology (fucked up as it is) were actually quite comforting to me. I employed considerable mental gymnastics and at times outright ignorance of opposing information just to protect my world view. I finally decided that if my world view was that solid, then there was no need to protect myself from other people's evidence. When I looked at the evidence, my belief changed. I didn't necessarily want it to, but as an otherwise rational person, I just couldn't justify what it took to keep convincing myself that the Bible was a reasonable basis for belief and morality in a rational human being. My atheism isn't about what I want to believe; it's about what I know from the facts I'm staring at.
What do you even know about my or anyone else's lifestyle? I'm a married man in a faithful heterosexual (not that it matters) relationship, I don't make trouble, I pay my taxes, I try to be nice to strangers, I maintain a job and pay my bills...for all intents and purposes, I'm probably at least as good a person as you are.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
