RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
September 11, 2015 at 7:12 am
(This post was last modified: September 11, 2015 at 7:21 am by Napoléon.)
Saw something today I thought I'd share:
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/teachers-islam...ml#KwpHBLA
Yeah, this happens in my city and it's not like it hasn't happened before: http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/feb/1...-channel-4
What does this have to do with anything? Well, I honestly think it's deluded to say to me that people in these Islamic communities, in these same schools, in these same mosques, are not responsible for what goes on in such communities, or at least held to some accountability. In these same places terrorist plots are being uncovered left right and center*, the education system is being outright abused and people are being influenced by the supposed senior members of these communities. These same members who are suspiciously quiet and reluctant to condemn extremism. Maybe, just maybe, it's these same fucking people who act as enablers for the ones we deem extremists.
Like I said, extremism in Islam isn't some fringe group of people who are radicals. It's something that is at the very heart of this vile religion and it's a problem that muslims need to fucking deal with. The crux of the issue is this is a stone age religion with stone age followers and the above is evidence (as if we needed any more) that muslims are living in a different century. Unlike the Catholic church, or even most Christians, they aren't even making any discernible attempt to change these horrible things that happen or prevent them. Instead all we do get from the majority is "they don't represent me". I'm sorry, but it's a bullshit cop-out to not deal with something that is absolutely their problem.
*examples:
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2015-04-1...terrorism/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/t...orism.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22344054
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/t...it-up.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15798572
https://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/n...ioncode=26
I can give more. This ain't even mentioning Lee Rigby or 7/7. I'm sure I can find more specific to Birmingham as well.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/teachers-islam...ml#KwpHBLA
Quote:Islamic school teachers who brutally beat a 10-year-old pupil until he lost his hair from worry have each been jailed for a year.
Mohammed Siddique, 60, and his 24-year-old son Mohammed Waqar were sentenced at Birmingham Crown Court today after admitting wilful cruelty to the boy in lessons.
Judge Mark Wall QC told the pair "it would not be right" to suspend the jail terms, because a message had to be sent that such "brutality" had no place in classrooms.
He said: "Acts of brutality of this sort which you each indulged in, with a stick, will not be tolerated."
Their victim was beaten with a plastic stick and given back-handed slaps by tutors for "talking in the classroom" or failing to properly recite the Koran at Sparkbrook Islamic centre, attached to the Jamia Mosque, in Anderton Road, Birmingham.
Yeah, this happens in my city and it's not like it hasn't happened before: http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/feb/1...-channel-4
What does this have to do with anything? Well, I honestly think it's deluded to say to me that people in these Islamic communities, in these same schools, in these same mosques, are not responsible for what goes on in such communities, or at least held to some accountability. In these same places terrorist plots are being uncovered left right and center*, the education system is being outright abused and people are being influenced by the supposed senior members of these communities. These same members who are suspiciously quiet and reluctant to condemn extremism. Maybe, just maybe, it's these same fucking people who act as enablers for the ones we deem extremists.
Like I said, extremism in Islam isn't some fringe group of people who are radicals. It's something that is at the very heart of this vile religion and it's a problem that muslims need to fucking deal with. The crux of the issue is this is a stone age religion with stone age followers and the above is evidence (as if we needed any more) that muslims are living in a different century. Unlike the Catholic church, or even most Christians, they aren't even making any discernible attempt to change these horrible things that happen or prevent them. Instead all we do get from the majority is "they don't represent me". I'm sorry, but it's a bullshit cop-out to not deal with something that is absolutely their problem.
*examples:
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2015-04-1...terrorism/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/t...orism.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22344054
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/t...it-up.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15798572
https://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/n...ioncode=26
I can give more. This ain't even mentioning Lee Rigby or 7/7. I'm sure I can find more specific to Birmingham as well.