(September 11, 2015 at 12:24 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:(September 11, 2015 at 12:18 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I can promise you, if/when I hear about a Catholic group/organization saying that Jesus wants them to torture/rape/murder people, I'll be the first to stand up and condemn the behavior.
Of course there are bad apples everywhere, but when 20% of people in your faith think this is what God wants them to do, there's a huge problem, and one that needs to be addressed.
Respectfully, I think you're taking for granted that you have the POWER (being a full member of western civilization, which over time has neutered the Catholic Church's ability to harm you for condemning the behavior... it's one of the reasons we "twitch" when talking about monuments to the power of the church) to attack members of your faith who do that.
Could you have condemned them, for instance, during the Inquisition?
I'm not trying to make your faith look bad for having had the Inquisition; I'm pointing out that the ability of the decent common-believer to stop the fanatics disappears once the number of fanatics reaches a certain percent of their population, and once the zealots attain a certain degree of fear/power/control.
As I said, your video does a good job of pointing out our objections to Islam, and why we have them. But we see all "True Believer" faiths to have equal potential. But in the case of Islam, they're definitely suffering (and we are suffering as a result) from an overpowering amount of death-cult medievalism in their social circles and societies.
I don't know if I'd have the courage to stand up publicly if I were alive during the Inquisition. I like to think I would, but it's impossible to tell. But there are plenty of Muslims in the Western world who have nothing to fear by standing up. And yet when confronted, the first thing many of them choose to do is get defensive.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh