(September 11, 2015 at 1:26 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Because 1) it's their family and community, and they belong to that community in a way that it's harder for individualist Americans to grasp, outside of our own communities that do the same. They're a part of it. And 2) they don't want to leave the religion, they just want to be faithful the best way they know how. Unfortunately, there's some really awful baggage that accompanies that particular social club.
What are they going to do, convert to another faith they don't believe in? Become atheists?
I mean, we'd be glad to see that happening, but I doubt you'd convert from Catholicism if the church was doing significantly more wrong than they do, especially if your family was likely to try to find and kill you if you did.
I can respect your empathy towards Muslims people for not standing up more, and I wish I had more of it in this case. But I think everything you're saying is just making Islam look worse, not better.
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