(September 12, 2015 at 6:53 pm)Laza Wrote: What do you guys think about holocaust deniers? People who think that hundreds of thousands of people were involved in a massive global conspiracy to fake one of the darkest moments in human history , inflitrated into multiple governments , faked confessions, faked witness testimonies, faked the mass graves and so on... Do you even deal with them, because their numbers are rising ?
Okay let's be clear here - who are you labelling 'deniers'? To me a denier is someone who denies the "final solution", who denies there was a specific policy to exterminate Jews held in camps, and who denies the use of extermination gas chambers at Auschwitz, Chełmno, Majdanek, Belzec, Sobibór and Treblinka.
There are other historians who are merely critical of the details and not those well established facts - they deny that 6,000,000 Jews were killed for example (and it is true that the number killed is believed to be closer to 5 million now). If I recall correctly, about 3-3.5 million Jews were deliberately killed in extermination chambers. Squabbling over exactly what the number is isn't denial - that's what we expect historians to do. Although those on the fringes are often pretty bad and clearly biased historians, they aren't 'deniers' per se.
Many of the images taken do show prisoners that were sick and dying from typhus, or who were starved to death - that's true. That isn't evidence that exterminator chambers didn't exist, it's evidence that we don't have any pictures of them in action.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke




? People who think that hundreds of thousands of people were involved in a massive global conspiracy to fake one of the darkest moments in human history , inflitrated into multiple governments , faked confessions, faked witness testimonies, faked the mass graves and so on... Do you even deal with them, because their numbers are rising ?