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Formal Introduction
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RE: Formal Introduction
(September 14, 2015 at 11:02 pm)heatiosrs Wrote: ...
(September 14, 2015 at 10:20 pm)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote: I hear Sam Harris making a similar argument, that atheism is the default position, although I don't fully agree either.

We have no concept of god when we are babies. So, we don't believe or disbelieve, because we are oblivious to anything related to that subject. To me, atheism is an active position on not believing in any deities, so we can't be atheists without knowing what a deity is. There is no position to be held.

Just like if there was something out in space that we hadn't discovered yet. We can't believe or disbelieve in a subject of which we haven't heard of, because it hasn't been conceived in our minds yet. There is no position to be taken.

I agree except -

I do not think that Atheism is a belief, I think it is a rejection of belief.

But, how can you reject a belief you did not even know existed? Therefore i fail to understand how we are born "Atheists".

"Atheism" can mean simply not having a belief in a god:

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/defini...ctCode=all

It does not necessarily require that one think about the issue at all.

This, by the way, is just one of the meanings of the term, though etymologically, it is the oldest, as the prefix "a-" means "not," so in that oldest sense, "atheism" simply means "not theism," which would be any and every position that isn't properly described as "theism."

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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Formal Introduction - by Heat - September 13, 2015 at 4:10 am
RE: Formal Introduction - by Longhorn - September 13, 2015 at 4:16 am
RE: Formal Introduction - by ignoramus - September 13, 2015 at 4:30 am
RE: Formal Introduction - by LastPoet - September 13, 2015 at 4:32 am
RE: Formal Introduction - by Alex K - September 13, 2015 at 4:47 am
RE: Formal Introduction - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 13, 2015 at 5:56 am
RE: Formal Introduction - by brewer - September 13, 2015 at 9:14 am
RE: Formal Introduction - by MTL - September 13, 2015 at 9:20 am
RE: Formal Introduction - by Athene - September 13, 2015 at 10:28 am
RE: Formal Introduction - by downbeatplumb - September 13, 2015 at 11:05 am
RE: Formal Introduction - by Exian - September 13, 2015 at 2:25 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by Heat - September 13, 2015 at 5:14 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by rexbeccarox - September 13, 2015 at 3:39 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by Minimalist - September 13, 2015 at 6:14 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by Pyrrho - September 13, 2015 at 8:54 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by Salacious B. Crumb - September 13, 2015 at 8:59 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by Heat - September 13, 2015 at 9:39 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by Salacious B. Crumb - September 14, 2015 at 1:57 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by drfuzzy - September 14, 2015 at 2:10 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by The Valkyrie - September 13, 2015 at 10:10 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by robvalue - September 14, 2015 at 12:48 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by Heat - September 14, 2015 at 5:18 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by Salacious B. Crumb - September 14, 2015 at 6:06 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by Heat - September 14, 2015 at 9:04 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by rado84 - September 14, 2015 at 9:14 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by Heat - September 14, 2015 at 9:18 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by rado84 - September 14, 2015 at 9:28 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by Heat - September 14, 2015 at 9:45 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by rado84 - September 14, 2015 at 9:49 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by Heat - September 14, 2015 at 9:56 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by rado84 - September 14, 2015 at 10:12 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by Heat - September 14, 2015 at 11:02 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by Pyrrho - September 14, 2015 at 11:10 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by Heat - September 14, 2015 at 11:22 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by Salacious B. Crumb - September 14, 2015 at 11:55 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by Salacious B. Crumb - September 14, 2015 at 10:20 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by SteelCurtain - September 14, 2015 at 10:55 pm
RE: Formal Introduction - by robvalue - September 15, 2015 at 1:00 am

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