The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy

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@lemmon, of course that, as long as they're not settled, many more than 20% will be angry at the "host" countries.
Once they are settled... I don't know.. depends on how they are arranged, I guess. If in ghettos, then yeah, for sure... things will be stupidly difficult to control.
If the people with the money decide to spread them around so that only a handful of muslim families stay in a given town, then I'd wager that they will integrate into the community.

History has shown that the majority of muslim communities in the west are not integrated, and this trend doesn't seem to be changing. That's the main problem for me.

If every fucker was here for a better life and seemed grateful for being here, I wouldn't really take much of an issue with what's happening right now. But a lot of these 'migrants' seem to think they've got a god given right to come and use European healthcare, UK healthcare, and social care, and all these other benefits. The PC crowd fucking hate someone bringing it up, but it's something that is seriously fucking off a hell of a lot of European people. A Somalian with 7 kids can get housed by the council with a click of the fingers but someone who's been on the waiting list for 10+ years, and is effectively homeless, doesn't get a foot in.

And I think it's reasonable to assume at least a few of these migrants may have connections with ISIS, and those who try to play down this threat are fucking deluded.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/isis-smuggler...rate-west/

http://news.yahoo.com/islamists-germany-...BHNlYwNzcg

ISIS SMUGGLER: 'WE WILL USE REFUGEE CRISIS TO INFILTRATE WEST'
4,000 covert terrorists already in place 'awaiting' orders

We know ISIS is dedicated to the destruction of western civilisation and has already killed European citizens, and already planned attacks on European soil, and flat out shout from the rooftops that THEY ARE COMING OVER HERE, but we see all these people coming from the exact region ISIS operates in and yet somehow I'm the bad guy if I say "um, maybe not everyone is a refugee", or "maybe we should have better control over European borders", or "maybe we should just exercise a bit of damn caution when inviting 20,000 unidentifiable people into the country".

I'm also annoyed by the misuse of words in this whole thing. Notice how people interchangeably use the word 'migrant' and 'refugee'. Genuine refugees, I am happy for the UK to do their fair share and take some of them in. Regular, economic migrants don't get such an entitlement though, and if they're coming here they should come under some level of inspection and assessment instead of the open arm approach that Europe is being guilt tripped into currently. And I'm annoyed once more by the shaming for anyone who voices displeasure about these 'migrants' who come in on boats, or that come in via 'people smuggling'. You need upwards of 3k to get on one of those boats, or in league with these smugglers according to media reports and you also have the choice to do it, regardless of what anyone says. IMO the UK has enough poor and homeless people of our own, that we don't really have a responsibility to take in thousands of people who all come from a culture that is diametrically opposed to western society, and bring them into a country that is supposedly going through economic strain and that can barely cope with it's current healthcare system as it is. Let's open the fucking borders and let every fucker and his dog in because it's the human thing to do?

Yeah, it doesn't really help the problem. So all the people crying for 'humanity', where are you all of the rest of the time?

Watch the following.

The 20% islamists sounds too much. If they are islamists, they would have remained in Syria, doing their jobs there.

No, not really. They obviously want to attack European culture. They've told us as much. Makes perfect sense that they'd use this opportunity to get into European countries and attack.

Some, indeed may attempt to come to Europe - that's why the borders are closing, to try to ID these guys and keep them in check.

Yeah and they should close the effing border if you ask me. It's getting beyond a joke. The entirety of Kent was basically in shutdown because of all the migrants coming in from Calais.

The worst thing Europe did was opening up the borders IMO. All that happens is every other country in Europe lets migrants make their way to Calais and then they dump it on the UK like it's our problem.

Or better yet, it's "Europe's problem". God am I sick of hearing this line.

/endrant