(September 17, 2015 at 3:19 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(September 17, 2015 at 2:18 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: No, what I demonstrated is that your church is fallible. Your church argued that the Earth does not orbit the Sun. It argued against what is a physical fact. That really puts a kink in its "infallibility". I don't care about your indoctrination; I don't care what you think. History shows that the Catholic Church got it wrong, and that renders your "doctrine" of an infallible church nugatory.
You can either argue against your own church's records, or you can argue against physics; that choice is yours, the leisure of shooting it down is mine.
I understand what you're saying, PT. But what we refer to when we say "Church doctrine" are official matters of faith and morals. That's the only part of the Church that is "infallible." The earth being the center of the universe was never official Church doctrine.
It was an official Church position.
And even if infallibility refers to faith and morals rather than facts, you'd still have to explain the moral lapses that caused even the highest members of the Church hierarchy to shelter criminals. You'd have to explain the popes who in the past maintained mistresses, or came into the position by foul play. I know what you're going to say, "The Church is infallible, but the people are human", but the Church is the people.
The idea that your church is infallible is laughable. You should know better.
